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    Town hall meeting - Thurs. 8/19/10 - Chester, VA

    HELP SUPPORT REPEAL OF OBSOLETE VIRGINIA GUN BUYER CHECK --
    Attend, Speak And Show Support At Upcoming Local Town Hall Meeting

    August 18, 2010

    Dear Joseph Simmons:

    In 1989, Virginia passed its first-in-the-nation state instant check statute. Nine years later, the national instant check system (NICS) became available. Since 1998, there has been a federal requirement for purchasers of any modern firearm from any gun dealer in every state to undergo a criminal history records check.

    So, for the past twelve years, the Virginia Firearms Transaction Program (VFTP) has been obsolete and unnecessary. For all gun purchases, the VFTP requires additional paperwork (Virginia State Police Form 65 in addition to the federal Form 4473), imposes a two dollar fee (state gun tax - no fee for NICS) and causes inordinate delays, particularly on weekends at gun shows and gun stores since the Virginia State Police is not adequately staffing this operation to meet demand.

    The solution to this persistent problem is not to increase the state gun fee/tax or appropriate more state government funds that Virginia taxpayers cannot afford, especially in these tough budget times, to perpetuate this antiquated and duplicative program. Instead the VFTP must be repealed so that only NICS will be required for gun purchases in Virginia as in 35 other states.

    With your help, pro-gun Attorney General Bob McDonnell was elected the 71st Governor of Virginia nine months ago. When he was inaugurated on January 16, Governor McDonnell signed Executive Order #2 establishing the Governor's Commission on Government Reform and Restructuring. Its stated purpose is to "conduct a thorough review of Virginia state government" and to "identify opportunities for creating efficiencies in state government, including streamlining, consolidating, or eliminating redundant and unnecessary agency services, governing bodies, regulations and programs."

    The Virginia Firearms Transaction Program has certainly become redundant and unnecessary since NICS took effect in 1998.

    Governor McDonnell has scheduled several Town Hall Meetings across Virginia in August that he will attend to explain his efforts to reform state government and also solicit public comment on ideas for him and his government reform commission to consider, recommend and pursue. For NRA members in the Richmond area, your town hall meeting will be held tomorrow night. Here is the schedule for upcoming meetings throughout this month:



    THURSDAY, AUGUST 19
    7:00 p.m. - 8:30 p.m.
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    I am waiting for a callback regarding the CCI's firearms policy.

    Does anyone know what Gov. McDonnell's security policy is?
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    Only know that they are a non-profit organization, not affiliated with the county.

    There are no rules and regulations posted on any of the links that I checked.
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    I'm going to be there to video it. Hope someone has some interesting questions.

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    First response was very iffy from CCI. There was a language barrier issue. At this time it sounds like NO on the firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmonsjoe View Post
    First response was very iffy from CCI. There was a language barrier issue. At this time it sounds like NO on the firearms.
    Was it no firearms or no weapons, Joe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Was it no firearms or no weapons, Joe?
    well, when I was asking about firearms she didn't understand the words. She thought I was trying to install fire alarms. I ended up saying 'Pistols' and still having to clarify 'guns.'

    Like I said she was iffy about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmonsjoe View Post
    well, when I was asking about firearms she didn't understand the words. She thought I was trying to install fire alarms. I ended up saying 'Pistols' and still having to clarify 'guns.'

    Like I said she was iffy about it.
    I was trying to decide on the Taser or the 1911, but I found out what I needed to know from McDonnell's office, so I don't think the tip's worth it.

    Look for some news on VDOF in the very near future.

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    Did not stay but for the first hour - my back was bothering me and the chair back was hard.

    CCd as a matter of discretion, but did not "sign in" when entering.

    No signs, no wanding but feel sure that my carry condition was recognized - No problems though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmonsjoe View Post
    I am waiting for a callback regarding the CCI's firearms policy.
    Don't ask, don't tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I was trying to decide on the Taser or the 1911, but I found out what I needed to know from McDonnell's office, so I don't think the tip's worth it.

    Look for some news on VDOF in the very near future.
    What did you find out from McDonnell's office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmonsjoe View Post
    What did you find out from McDonnell's office?
    There has been some reluctant communication between VDOf and McDonnell's office. Both have been under pressure lately. VDOF is even risking legal action by withholding FOIA information about the meetings.

    There will be some movement in the next week or so.

    That's about all I want to say about it now, because I haven't gotten the documentation yet and all the verbal information has been off the record.

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    Well you peaked my interest! *sits on edge of chair*

    I'll be lookin' for it.
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