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    TN Police Confiscate mans AK47

    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    What exactly does this have to do with OC of handguns?

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    RKBA in TN seems appropriate in the TN section.

    It has everything to do with RKBA in TN. Could go into the News & Political Alerts, but seems better placed here.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Made me think of a famous poem...

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    "Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me."

    Martin Niemöller

    Perhaps if we substituted XDM .40 for AK47 in the story above then everyone would understand.

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    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/misc.php?do=showrules
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    All gun rights discussions not directly related to open carry should take place in the "General Discussions" forum and topics that are not related to gun rights at all should take place in "The Lounge". Please police your own posts before posting them and help keep OCDO strong and focused.

    (14) LONG GUN CARRY IS OFF-TOPIC: This web site is focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life. We do NOT promote the carry of long guns. Long guns are great! OCDO co-founders John & Mike and most of the members of this forum own at least one long gun - but due to urban area issues of muzzle control, lack of trigger guard coverage, and the fact that the long gun carry issue distracts from our main mission to promote the open carry of handguns in daily life, we will leave long gun carry activism in the capable hands of the future founders of web sites about long gun carry.
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    First they came for the AK47's, and I did not speak out --
    Because I did not own an AK47.

    "Then they came for the BMG .50, and I did not speak out --
    Because I had no use for such a gun.

    Then they came for the Glocks, and I did not speak out --
    Because I did not like Glocks.

    Then they came for my XDM -- and there was no guns left to defend me."

    The story is relevant, regardless if it is in the wrong forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscottie View Post
    The story is relevant, regardless if it is in the wrong forum.
    I never said it wasn't. I dig long gun carry and would love to pack a SBR AR in the woods once I move out to CO but there is a "General Discussion" section for a reason.

    These boards are SUPPOSED to be for discussing the carrying of properly holstered handguns. But some things change I guess. Carry on.

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    It could have been an AK47 Pistol.

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    I've spoken to the confiscation victim. His Glock pistol was also taken, in addition to his AK. He was from out of state passing through TN returning from an open carry event in VA which I organized. Google "restore the constitution rally" for news reports of the event.


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    "This rifle vs. pistol stuff is getting a little silly, ain't it?"

    Nah, not when the Moderators/Owners of the Forum WANT it that way, not at all...

    Specifics would be nice - such as the locality and Police Department which took the firearms, what the fellow was doing when the firearm was taken. Condition of the firearm (was it visible from the outside of the vehicle, or did they search) Reasons given for the confiscation, etc.
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    Sometimes, there is a serious problem with thinking your spoke is the only one that matters in the proverbial wheel. Especially when you refuse to work with the others to make the wheel go round.

    Who cares if the others get taken out?

    Am I right?



    Guys,
    Let's not support this crap. This "right to carry a Glock in a SERPA holster" is comical stuff. Let them live in their laughable fantasyland of the "right to carry pistols, and ignore everything else".

    Maybe one day they will actually embrace the definition of the 2nd Amendment, instead of labeling everybody who does as a "Constitutional Extremist".

    Self servitude is AWESOME.



    Let's talk about holstered pistols. It's all that matters in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HvyMtl View Post
    "This rifle vs. pistol stuff is getting a little silly, ain't it?"

    Nah, not when the Moderators/Owners of the Forum WANT it that way, not at all...

    Specifics would be nice - such as the locality and Police Department which took the firearms, what the fellow was doing when the firearm was taken. Condition of the firearm (was it visible from the outside of the vehicle, or did they search) Reasons given for the confiscation, etc.
    The victim has said he will release all info once the legal stuff is out of the way, as per his lawyer's guidance. Wish I could put more info out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowfiveoh View Post
    Let's talk about holstered pistols. It's all that matters in the world.
    Mike and John have worked very VERY hard to make this site the premier site for openly carried handguns. There are plenty of other sites out there that focus on other arms. This one is dedicated to OC of handguns.

    Them's the rules dude. You agreed to abide by them when you signed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingfish View Post
    Mike and John have worked very VERY hard to make this site the premier site for openly carried handguns. There are plenty of other sites out there that focus on other arms. This one is dedicated to OC of handguns.

    Them's the rules dude. You agreed to abide by them when you signed up.
    What are you griping at me for? I specifically just said that we should abide by the rules.

    "Let's talk about holstered pistols. It's all that matters in the world. "

    Whether it's the "Premier site for openly carried handguns", or not, it is still focused on embracing of the 2nd Amendment as a whole.

    Is it not?

    Please just answer that simple question.
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    The wheels on the bus go round and round...round and round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowfiveoh View Post
    What are you griping at me for? I specifically just said that we should abide by the rules.

    "Let's talk about holstered pistols. It's all that matters in the world. "

    Whether it's the "Premier site for openly carried handguns", or not, it is still focused on embracing of the 2nd Amendment as a whole.

    Is it not?

    Please just answer that simple question.
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    This is not the rifle/pistol thing as it is an issue with our RKBA and freely travel with them without the worry of confiscation without just cause.

    Obviously, the man was not doing anything illegal because HE WAS NOT ARRESTED.

    I do not know the laws in TN well enough to know whether they had a legal justification for confiscation, but from what I know in general about the 4th Amendment and such, this stinks to high heaven.

    We definitely need more information on this one.

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    I doubt there would be any argument if this thread was moved to a more suitable area.

    I personally would have assumed that it was relevant to OPEN CARRY in general in the state of TN but after a pure literal reading of the forum rules makes me think I may be mistaken.

    I would hope that mistakes of opinion about the relevance of a post can be handled in a civil manner. There is no need for anyone to get upset about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rscottie View Post
    I doubt there would be any argument if this thread was moved to a more suitable area.
    Absolutely 100% correct. Long gun carry (and CC) discussion have merit and there is a place for that now on this site ("General Discussion").

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    Why are we concerned about Open Carry? Because it demonstrates the exercise of our 2nd Amendment rights. Away from that, OC means nothing. Anything that infringes upon those rights is on topic, imo. No, not the open carrying of your AK or M-4, what sling you use or optic you mount, that is not in scope. But the denial of 2A freedoms is. OC is an outward manifestation of something far more important to citizens of this country. But it is not the core "something" which should be our primary concern.

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    Without RKBA, OC is [I]sine qua non[/I].

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    • (14) LONG GUN CARRY IS OFF-TOPIC: This web site is focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life. We do NOT promote the carry of long guns. Long guns are great! OCDO co-founders John & Mike and most of the members of this forum own at least one long gun - but due to urban area issues of muzzle control, lack of trigger guard coverage, and the fact that the long gun carry issue distracts from our main mission to promote the open carry of handguns in daily life, we will leave long gun carry activism in the capable hands of the future founders of web sites about long gun carry.
    RKBA incidents in Tennessee ARE directly relate to Open Carry of a handgun in a holster in Tennessee. Without RKBA, OC is sine qua non.

    I don't know why you think you are the topicality policeman, but you are not. Get over it dude.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
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    RKBA incidents in Tennessee ARE directly relate to Open Carry of a handgun in a holster in Tennessee. Without RKBA, OC is sine qua non.

    I don't know why you think you are the topicality policeman, but you are not. Get over it dude.
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    All Kingfish is trying to say is there are rules here, period. Go post in the GD thread on anything that doesn't keep in path with the rules of the forum. However, it seems as if the rules here are just made to be broken. Slow can make a personal attack once a week and Kwik can use the site for monetary gain and be the most defaming person towards those sworn to protect others (whether you like it or not).

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    you guys ever notice how cops are absolute knobs when it comes to confiscating a gun, they jump up and down about it, show the sucker on tv, like they just got the heisman trophy or something.

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    Contribute or move on please

    Quote Originally Posted by Grassroots View Post
    All Kingfish is trying to say is there are rules here, period. Go post in the GD thread on anything that doesn't keep in path with the rules of the forum. However, it seems as if the rules here are just made to be broken. Slow can make a personal attack once a week and Kwik can use the site for monetary gain and be the most defaming person towards those sworn to protect others (whether you like it or not).
    Please do not try to hijack this thread and turn it into another personal insult swapping page. Most in the members of the forum are tired of that.

    Like I told Kingfish, my post is within the rules of the forum. Take a look at what is posted in the other state forums. Neither you nor Kingfish have been deputized as the Tennessee forum topicality police. Please contribute to the discussion or move on.

    Just pretend that this is in the general discussion section, and focus on the seizure of firearms instead of the fact that one of the guns seized was an AK 47. What do you think about the possible RKBA infringement of a 2A advocate in Tennessee?
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Thundar, you are capable of comprehension some other posters are not. I know it will be hard for you to rationalize, but yes sir, some people are literally that short-sighted. Some people are indeed incapable of processing that sort of obvious connection between scenarios.

    But, I digress.

    I simply want you to realize that it is not worth it. You can't fix those with weaker processing abilities. Especially when they don't want to be fixed.


    On Topic:

    You are absolutely correct. The connection is there.

    The problem in this case is of course accountability. Some cops just don't have it.

    I am very interested to see what happens in this case. Previous posts had led me to believe, that "Tennesseans have it pretty good when it comes to RKBA". Clearly this is a half-truth at best.

    I wish this guy the best of luck, and I hope he is compensated so well from this infringement, that he can get rid of the AK and get a AR.
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