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    Court house entry

    When one has to go to a court house when OCing. What is the best way to announce to the security folks inside the front door that you will need a lock box. Do you walk right in like you own the place and stand before the metal detector and announce your request? Do you poke your head in the front door and ask for assistance in the matter? Or do you loiter outside waiting for someone to notice the guy with a gun? What have you guys done and what is the best way to make it as pain free as possible.

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    Pierce Co, Federal Way, Fife, King Co....

    I walk in and up to where the metal detector is and state that I have a weapon to check. It usually takes them a few seconds or for me to repeat the statement before they figure out what needs to be done. It is not the most common of occurrences for them, therefore they usually have to ask someone else for some guidance. I suggest you give yourself an extra 15 minutes or so before you have to be in court.


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    When one has to go to a court house when OCing. What is the best way to announce to the security folks inside the front door that you will need a lock box. Do you walk right in like you own the place and stand before the metal detector and announce your request? Do you poke your head in the front door and ask for assistance in the matter? Or do you loiter outside waiting for someone to notice the guy with a gun? What have you guys done and what is the best way to make it as pain free as possible.
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    Also be prepared to be asked for a multitude of things that are not required (i.e. your CPL or your DL or and ID card). It is best just not to go inside with all your info if you can manage to do it that way. You may have to offer up a first and last name though

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    Good to know. Thanks, guys.

    I live north of you Joe, in Cowlitz County. I'm actually going in to get a CPL at the sheriffs'' office. It is located in our Court house building. They could ask for a CPL but I'll just have to tell them that perhaps if I pass the back ground check I might let you see it next time

    P.S. I'm still bummed that I'll be out of town for the picnic

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    I just wait to until I am up to the detector and they ask me to remove all metal objects or their attention is on me.

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    Yup, when it is my turn at the table to dump my stuff in a tray, I tell them I need to check my weapons. Depending on location it can be really easy or a genuine PITA from that point.
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    Gogo, devildoc is going to go fill in for his CPL soon, and I plan on going with. We'll see what happens at the county city building in Tacoma. Wanna be the cameraman?

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    Just walked in and..

    ..said "Hey guys, check my gun at the door please". The old fella at the counter asked if it was a colt (i was carrying my 1911). I said Yeap, sure is. Over the radio, i could hear an advertisement for the Puyallup gun show (last month). It was kinda cool. This was at Kitsap court in Port Orchard. The other time was with my Ruger Vaquero, and my friend was astonished to see the a complete lack of reaction when i checked my old sixgun at the door. Again, i just walked up and asked to check it in. The belt wouldn't fit in the box, so the old fella just hung it up and commented on it bein some nice old leather, was impressed to see 45. colt shells... hehe...
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    My wife just walks up the the securit counter next to the metal detector and lets the individuals know that she has a weapon to check...Arlington courthouse has always been completely helpfull and polite to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .45ACPaddy View Post
    Gogo, devildoc is going to go fill in for his CPL soon, and I plan on going with. We'll see what happens at the county city building in Tacoma. Wanna be the cameraman?
    Depends on when, I am working quite a bit right now as it is a very busy season for office supplies (back to school). If it works out I would love to. At least get it audio recorded.
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    I usually don't wait in line, I let the guard know I have a weapon to check, before getting into line. Here at Whatcom you don't have to go past the detectors to check your firearm in.

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    Pierce County Court Building

    Greetings all, I’ve been a board lurker for a few months and have learned a lot so I want to share my experience to get everyone’s feedback.

    I had the opportunity on Friday (August 27) to try out Pierce County’s handling of someone showing up CC. My wife and I parked on the backside, 2nd floor of the county building and as I was in line I flagged down a Sergeant and told him that I needed to “Declare” and was displaying my concealed carry license. He had me walk back outside to the alcove and wait in the corner while he went to get the paperwork and a container for me.

    He asked where I was carrying and if it was ok for him to remove my weapon, which I agreed to. He was very polite and professional during the entire encounter. On the paperwork I had to sign was my name and date and to acknowledge that my weapon and any magazines or speed loaders were going to be unloaded. When I was ready to leave they would bring my property back to me in a brown paper bag. I was then given a plastic card with a number and a brief summary of what was on the paperwork (no I forgot to get a copy). The Sergeant then had me walk with him over to a locked room/office where he attached my CCL to the paperwork and bundled it with my belongings. He then told me when I’m done to let the private security company working the entry/exit to know and they would page someone to come down and retrieve my items.

    When I was done and approached security I told him I needed an officer to retrieve my property he looked at the card and answered “oh you got a gun to pick up” I then repeated that it was ‘property’ to be picked up.

    After waiting in the alcove corner, another officer arrived and brought a brown paper bag with all my items inside. We did a quick inventory of all the items (everything was there) and he reminded me about not loading the firearm until I was in my vehicle and to be discrete about it so not to alarm anyone (I don’t remember his exact words). He then offered to escort me to the car; I declined.

    As I was thinking over my experience I did learn a couple of things:
    1. Get copies of the form
    a. Do they keep the form, if so how long, or is it destroyed when I leave?
    2. The names of the officers who helped me.
    a. I think they had to sign the form both times.
    3. Would the same escort offer be given if I was parked some distance from the building since parking is so bad downtown? What if I was riding the bus?

    The only error that the county may have made was they didn’t give me a key or a lockbox to keep the weapon in. They (officers) had electronic keys to access the room which I was not offered to enter. I don’t know if they checked my name or anything while they had my property.

    So there it is, I look forward to hearing any comments (good or bad) so we can all learn together. It maybe a few days before I can get back to any comments.

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    he reminded me about not loading the firearm until I was in my vehicle and to be discrete about it so not to alarm anyone (I don’t remember his exact words). He then offered to escort me to the car;
    So if I took the bus that day, it would be ok to load the weapon on the bus ????

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    1911Grunt: Nice report.

    So, because they've unloaded your weapon and magazines, upon returning them you get a double handful of cartridges? Do they expect you to just shove them in your pockets and leave?

    It's nice that they offer to escort you to your car, but by what authority does he tell you to not load the weapon until reaching your car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienbogey View Post
    1911Grunt: Nice report.

    So, because they've unloaded your weapon and magazines, upon returning them you get a double handful of cartridges? Do they expect you to just shove them in your pockets and leave?

    It's nice that they offer to escort you to your car, but by what authority does he tell you to not load the weapon until reaching your car?
    I agree, with this and M1gnr's post. They should either not unload it or let you load it right there, they are the ones that created that uncomfortable situation. Seems like they were courteous enough just need some more working/training there.

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    For those courthouses that like to unload your gun, has anyone thought of placing their gun in a lockable gun rug before handing it over? The zippers on many of these are designed to handle a small padlock.


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