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    Thumbs down Kicked out of the Chateau Cushnoc for Open Carry

    The Chateau Cushnoc is a retirement community owned by the AFL-CIO.
    The was an open forum to celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Social Security program.
    Libby Mitchell, Chellie Pingree, Patsy Crockett, and Maeghan Maloney had all planned to attend.
    I keep track of local politics and planned to film them speaking and maybe ask them a few questions afterward.
    That didn't happen. Watch the video below to see how it played out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7r2mnLe_4M

    About 90 minutes after this occurred at 1:06 PM officer E. Dos Santos served me a paper citing Title 17-A,Section 402. It appears I've been permanently banned from the premises. When I can find a power cord for my scanner I'll upload the actual document itself.
    If seeing someone openly carrying a gun makes you nervous there is a good chance it is because it forces you to realize that you have chosen to be helpless.

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    I think you handled yourself well. When asked to leave private property, you left. They do not have to have a sign to ask you to leave. However, if they did have a sign and you ignored it, then you would be automatically guilty of a crime (criminal possession of a firearm). Here's the statute: 17ASS1057

    The statute does not say they must have a sign to kick you out, only that if they have a sign, you must follow it. They can still kick you out and you must follow their direction, which you did.

    Now that they've asked you not to return to their property, you must also follow that direction.

    They haven't asked me not to go there though. Perhaps I should take a trip

    I hope that plenty of people see this, just so they can see how stupid the place's policies are.

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    Possession of firearms in an establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of liquor
    1. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm if:
    A. Not being a law enforcement officer or a private investigator licensed under Title 32, chapter 89 and actually performing as a private investigator, the person possesses any firearm on the premises of a licensed establishment posted to prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms in a manner reasonably likely to come to the attention of patrons, in violation of the posted prohibition or restriction;

    Not sure they're licensed to sell liquor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarody View Post
    The Chateau Cushnoc is a retirement community owned by the AFL-CIO.
    Santo fumo! A veritable lion's den of anti's, anti-gun, anti-freedom, anti-republicanism, even anti-work. Do they all sleep in featherbeds?

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    remember, if she's not a manager/owner she can't ask you to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maine CWP Training View Post
    Not sure they're licensed to sell liquor?
    They appear to have on-site meal preparation. I would expect a restaurant license if anything.
    If seeing someone openly carrying a gun makes you nervous there is a good chance it is because it forces you to realize that you have chosen to be helpless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maine CWP Training View Post
    Possession of firearms in an establishment licensed for on-premises consumption of liquor
    1. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm if:
    A. Not being a law enforcement officer or a private investigator licensed under Title 32, chapter 89 and actually performing as a private investigator, the person possesses any firearm on the premises of a licensed establishment posted to prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms in a manner reasonably likely to come to the attention of patrons, in violation of the posted prohibition or restriction;

    Not sure they're licensed to sell liquor?
    For the purposes of this section, "licensed establishment" means a licensed establishment as defined by Title 28-A, section 2, subsection 15, the license for which is held by an on-premise retail licensee, as defined by Title 28-A, section 2, subsection 27, paragraph B. For the purposes of this section, "premises" has the same meaning as set forth in Title 28-A, section 2, subsection 24.

    The licensed establishment still has to post the premises in order to have the "criminal possession of a firearm" I have still not seen any bars that are posted to prohibit firearms. The Stadium in Portland and The Pier in Old Orchard do pat downs, but they have no sign saying no weapons.
    Last edited by boyscout399; 08-27-2010 at 12:56 PM.

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    Liquor licensed premises. Not sure this venue had a liquor license that would fall under the statute.

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