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    I need a lawyer and I need one now..

    I did not get busted....but it has something to do with my employment and my right to carry when there is noththing on the books about a weapon at the workplace.

    I was told to resign, or quit carrying my weapon, concealed or otherwise.

    Suggestions?

    I know i am screwed, I guess i am venting.

    Don't buy from Milford Plumbing Supply.....but if your in St Charles...come by and say hi!!!

    Zeke
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    Is Missouri an 'employment at will' state? If so, they can change the 'employee manual' all they want without notifying you. My personal advice would be to say 'Ok I won't carry at work anymore' and leave your weapon in the car for your protection to & from work, just don't tell them. I know here in Texas, your car is an extention of your home; someone entering it w/o premission is tresspassing. If they take anyting out, it's thieft; theift of a firearm is a felony! I would also, if possible, park your vehicle off their property. I had to do that with a former employer; my car and anything in it were then not subject to their rules. Good luck amigo!

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    Zekester, i would never lie to you, do what they want, go car carry, but nothing on the hip, keep the coin-ola flowing, i know they're not right, and it's you rigth, but moola is priority one as bad as things are now. you ain't selling out, just modifying yourself to someone who doesn't give a damn if you live or die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
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    Zeke, you can call the law office and have one of the lawyers tell you, or you can just take the above and go with it.

    If you call a lawyer, they are going to tell you almost verbatim: The state of Missouri is an employment at will state, you have no case nor any legitimate complaint to file anywhere. Your choices are exactly as explained by your employer, do as they say and stop carrying a firearm on their property or resign. You surrender your personal rights at the door.

    If you like your job, comply. If you do not, I personally would suggest complying until you find another, the unemployment rate is still too high to make it "easy" to find a job.

    You can also go to the Missouri Department of Labor and learn these facts for themselves, they are indeed addressed there and they are online. I am responsible for about 60 employees and 1500 folks, I have to enforce rules I do not agree with and that is just how it is until I have 100 million and can buy the company, then I shall make the rules everyone else has to follow.

    Concealed is concealed and no one should ever know it is there and you really should not ever mention it unless legally required to do so.

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    As was mentioned above, you are pretty much SOL. Your employer holds the cards as far as what conditions he/she has in place for people he/she employs. You don't have to like it, but your employer has that right.
    Last edited by cshoff; 08-27-2010 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMTD View Post
    Concealed is concealed and no one should ever know it is there and you really should not ever mention it unless legally required to do so.
    Quoted for truth.

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    Yea Zeke, it sucks.

    Ask how they feel about you carrying a sword instead. Maybe it'll lighten the mood between you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    I did not get busted....but it has something to do with my employment and my right to carry when there is noththing on the books about a weapon at the workplace.

    I was told to resign, or quit carrying my weapon, concealed or otherwise.

    Suggestions?

    I know i am screwed, I guess i am venting.

    Don't buy from Milford Plumbing Supply.....but if your in St Charles...come by and say hi!!!

    Zeke

    Zeke,

    Unfortunately, you're in an "at will" State meaning they do not need any cause to fire you. You're better off ducking this one and not carrying in the work place than trying to fight the issue when the economy is horrible. If you have another job that can support you in your fight then so be it and good luck.

    We're all stuck on this exact issue. Employers want to tell us no, but they don't want to be liable for our safety either.

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