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    So, burningman and BLM are authorized to confiscate guns on BLM land?

    burningman lit says they will confiscate firearms brought into their art event on BLM land- I talked to someone in the know of their higher ups & it seems as if some DC bureaucrats & some anti do gooders in the burningman org simply did away with due process and invented some right to confiscate. They claim its a "city" ignoring NV preemption law and creating a mini Chicago, they also claim its a private event but its on BLM land so doesn't the COTUS hold some sway?

    It must suck for the gun owners who have to sneak their guns in, they have to drive thousands of miles across a desert with no cell phone reception to even call the police if they're attacked. I know a few who simply sneak their guns in.

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    I would defiantly not go to burning man (or anywhere in the middle of nowhere for that matter) without at least one gun!

    If it is public land, they have no legal right to regulate firearms. If the land is private, they can only ask you to leave, or trespass you. I'd like them to be able to cite any law that says otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrsjhnsn View Post
    burningman lit says they will confiscate firearms brought into their art event on BLM land- I talked to someone in the know of their higher ups & it seems as if some DC bureaucrats & some anti do gooders in the burningman org simply did away with due process and invented some right to confiscate. They claim its a "city" ignoring NV preemption law and creating a mini Chicago, they also claim its a private event but its on BLM land so doesn't the COTUS hold some sway?

    It must suck for the gun owners who have to sneak their guns in, they have to drive thousands of miles across a desert with no cell phone reception to even call the police if they're attacked. I know a few who simply sneak their guns in.
    Burning Man is just trouble waiting to happen. Most of those people will be drunk, stoned and whatever else. Not worth it!

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    Sad as I am to say it... I think the organizers have a right to restrict firearms. BLM land is one thing, but you're participating in their event, and event they run and are responsible for. I see no difference here between Burning Man and the concerts here in town that check everyone for weapons on the way in the door.

    I do not agree with it, and it gives me one more reason to hate the hippies out there.

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    Direct from BLM Rangers on the Black Rock. They have no problem with guns in the NCA of the Black Rock Desert and even rec shooting with in the NCA which is sort of grey area. If the private event which has a permit from the BLM decides to exclude guns then at the their request they will assist in the removal of the person from the event. They had no interest in confiscation and had no law, simple posession, to base it upon even if the event wanted it.
    This was not during BM but another event I attend about 4 time a year. I was told that if I actually discharged a firearm on the Playa there would be serious consequences due to the safety issues ie no backstop and you would be surprised just how far you CAN'T see out there. I had absolutely no problem with this rule and they suggested several places where rec shooting takes place.

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    Let's do the math:

    People x 10,000's

    Drunk, doped, stupid etc x 1000's

    You x 1

    This is NOT the place that I would OC. If I went at all, I would either CC or keep it in the car -- but I would HAVE it.

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    Why in the **** would you put yourself in a situation like that? Unless you are going to get ****** up, there is no reason to go to something like that. BM needs to be raided and shut down and its participants thrown in jail. I know exactly the type of people that go there. Its ******* stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerfish View Post
    Why in the **** would you put yourself in a situation like that? Unless you are going to get ****** up, there is no reason to go to something like that. BM needs to be raided and shut down and its participants thrown in jail. I know exactly the type of people that go there. Its ******* stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerfish View Post
    Why in the **** would you put yourself in a situation like that? Unless you are going to get ****** up, there is no reason to go to something like that. BM needs to be raided and shut down and its participants thrown in jail. I know exactly the type of people that go there. Its ******* stupid.
    So people who are not harming anyone should be thrown in jail? Fan of TYRANNY much?
    He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. -- Thomas Paine (1737--1809), Dissertation on First Principles of Government, 1795

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    Hippies

    They are all drunk and high there. Mostly dirty californians.

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    They charge $200 plus for a ticket and they pocket that money

    You can't drive your car around unless you make it look like a tweaker mobile.
    Plus BLM rangers are dicks.

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    So what? They aren't hurting anyone, and the only reason you know about it is because other people told you it's happening.

    And that's $200 per head that isn't being given to the Pelosi, Boxer or Reid campaigns, so we're better off.

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    Would you rather they party for free in your neighborhood as opposed to out in the middle of nowhere for $200?

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    Can't party in your neighborhood with X, blow, and meth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerfish View Post
    Can't party in your neighborhood with X, blow, and meth...
    Underage drinking might be possible if they can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerfish View Post
    Can't party in your neighborhood with X, blow, and meth...
    I've known a lot of people who would disagree with that statement.

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    Just have to step in here. Burning Man was a long process starting around 1986 and officially started 1997. In all this time there hasn't been any incidents of Trouble. There have been accidents and one suicide. As for the statement that nothing but hippies go there well, I can tell you I have lot's of friends mostly professional types and one daughter who definitely are NOT hippies who have gone there for the experience. I admit a lot of goofiness goes on there but violence isn't one of them.

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    Don't feed the troll...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzkill144 View Post
    Just have to step in here. Burning Man was a long process starting around 1986 and officially started 1997. In all this time there hasn't been any incidents of Trouble. There have been accidents and one suicide. As for the statement that nothing but hippies go there well, I can tell you I have lot's of friends mostly professional types and one daughter who definitely are NOT hippies who have gone there for the experience. I admit a lot of goofiness goes on there but violence isn't one of them.
    No trouble? Violent crime happens at BM every single year. It is just either unreported, or underreported. There are multiple instances of sexual assault and rape every single year. Personally, I don't think crime can get much more violent than rape. Please stop spreading the lie that nothing bad happens at BM. The only way to stop it from happening is to bring it out in the open and make people realize it is not a safe place.

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