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    Red face AB1934 is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Republicans tied it up enough for the Assembly to pass on it. It never got voted on. They didnt get back to it before the midnight deadline. Chuck DeVore declared it dead.

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    People are saying it did and it didn't pass. Who's has the facts?!

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    the Assembly had to vote on it before midnight. The Republicans attacked it on the floor to the point they passed on it to get to other bills. They never got back to it before midnight. therefore the bill is dead. there will be no more vote for the rest of the year. all bills not passed are dead.

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    Another thread said it passed 20 something to like 16 or 17. Were they wrong? Again who has facts? This seems to me that if it is dead we start making a stand and getting others to support and do open carry.

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    it passed the Senate and had to go back to the Assembly committee for an amendment vote. Had it passed there, it would go to the Governor. It never got voted on before the midnight deadline for the constitutional end of session. Its a non-budget bill. Therefore all non-budget bills are dead that did not get voted on.

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    Apparently the Republicans are still good for a few things. If they really wanted to impress me, they would repeal the Mulford Act. Note to Republicans in office: you need to do more than simply stop some of the crap the Democrats try to pass. You have to start rolling back the stuff that actually did pass. We'll never get back to this "small government" ya'll talk about unless you start repealing all of the tyranny piece by piece. Might as well start with that.
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    Actually it passed an initial vote back in the assembly, but more modifications were needed, and then they ran out of time before the final vote. We just barely snuck a win out on this one!

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    Wish I would have kept my computer on after the vote. I was so disgusted with everything that I didn't want to read anything about laws or guns (for once). Now I see this and wish I would have stuck around for another hour. Very cool, very cool.

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    hearing this piece of good news really just made my day i went to sleep thinking it passed now hearing this its gonna be a very good day

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    Quote Originally Posted by wewd View Post
    Apparently the Republicans are still good for a few things. If they really wanted to impress me, they would repeal the Mulford Act. Note to Republicans in office: you need to do more than simply stop some of the crap the Democrats try to pass. You have to start rolling back the stuff that actually did pass. We'll never get back to this "small government" ya'll talk about unless you start repealing all of the tyranny piece by piece. Might as well start with that.
    How do they do that? They don't have the votes in either house. Once you go to NH, concentrate on helping the Republicans take back that state. Right now, it's not "Live free or die." It's " the Massholes have taken over." That can change this election in NH. Kalifornia, not going to happen anytime soon.

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    Red face The only GOOD AB1934 is a DEAD AB1934

    Tee Hee!

    Carry On,

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    I have the facts...right here.

    Three California gun control bills have died.
    AB 1810, the long gun registration bill from Mike Feur (D), AB 1934, the open carry ban from Lori Saldana (D), and AB 2358, the ammunition vendor reporting bill from Kevin DeLeon (D) died last night.
    From CRPA News and Updates, via CalGuns:
    "All three of these bills posed a fundamental threat to the rights of gun owners. And there was no room for compromise any one of the bills. It was a fight down to midnight, but in the late hours of August 31, AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 were DEFEATED!

    "This is a huge win for gun owners. Thank you to all members who took time to contact members of legislature and voice their strong opposition to these bills. Your collective voice was heard loud and clear at the capitol. You stoked the fire against AB 1810, AB 1934, and AB 2358 and it paid off!"
    LA Anti-Establishment Examiner Charles Nichols also credits Republicans Chuck Devore, Steve Knight, Tom Berryhill and Kevin Jeffries for leadership in defeating the bills.
    Good work, CA activists and all of the organizations involved, including NRA, CRPA, SAF, GOC, Responsible Citizens of California and the South Bay Open Carry Movement, and anyone I inadvertently omitted.
    Also see: "Anti-gun assembly member travels with armed security escort"
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    If you missed the awesomeness which took place in the Assembly last night, you can watch it here: https://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewVideo/1732

    1934 comes up at 3:19:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    If you missed the awesomeness which took place in the Assembly last night, you can watch it here: https://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewVideo/1732

    1934 comes up at 3:19:00.
    Very very cool thanks for posting the link!

    Someone should make this a perma-thread.

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    We could still see a special session this year. We don't have a budget yet, and who knows whether the outgoing legislators want to end their terms on something like that.

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    What!!!! I can't believe it! I'm soooo glad I didn't shoot myself after vote in the Senate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    If you missed the awesomeness which took place in the Assembly last night, you can watch it here: https://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewVideo/1732

    1934 comes up at 3:19:00.
    I saw the awesomeness. All of it. I am still giddy like a schoolgirl. Not ashamed.
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    I just watched the Assembly video. Chuck DeVore's speech has restored hope in me that the Republican party has not lost complete touch with its conservative base. It left a lump in my throat.

    But the part that put the biggest smile on my face was when Lori Saldana said, "I believe that motion is out of order." And then Fiona Ma says, "Motion to pass temporarily is in order." The nervous stroking of the papers Saldana has in hand, the confident voice failing, the look on her face...priceless!!!! (3:39:00) Check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sons of Liberty View Post
    What!!!! I can't believe it! I'm soooo glad I didn't shoot myself after vote in the Senate!
    I spewed coffee all over my monitor when I saw that it failed. I had no clue it was going back to the Assmebly.
    Watching the Assmebly video, it was nice to see Lori wandering all around the desk, trying to get someone to bring her bill up for a vote.
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    Lori's FB Page

    You fail..... Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ View Post
    You fail..... Hahaha

    he doesn't ALLOW comments on her FB page... I bet I know why !

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    Yea, she removed the option to allow posts' to her "wall" back in April when we started slamming her hard for being a paranoid, anti-american, anti-gun, anti-rights, anti-constitution, D-bag.

    But you gotta love that picture.

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    Pics Pics Pics!

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    Vote to Re-Refer Bill to the Senate Committee. Take note that even Fiona Ma votes "No."
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    Second to the Motion. Notice once again that Fiona Ma votes "No."

    Mr. Calderon moves to pass on this Bill, and Fiona asks if there will be any objections...
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    A confused Saldana stating that "I believe the Motion is out of order. You cannot pass on a Bill we are currently debating."
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    First face Ma makes when telling Saldana "The Motion to Pass temporarily is in order."
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    This face toward Saldana (while waiting for her to scramble in effed-upness) tells me Fiona meant what she said...with a little oomph.
    Second to the motion to Suspend the Rules. Note here that Ma votes "Aye" to aid in the defeat of Saldana.

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    Email I recieved

    Dear Friends:

    As you may know, the 2009-2010 legislative session ended on August 31st, at midnight. As a fellow supporter of our Second Amendment right to bear arms, I wanted to be sure and keep you updated on a few important bills that we were all watching this session.

    FAILED: AB 1810, which would require California residents to register their shotguns and rifles in addition to their handguns, and would require law enforcement to permanently keep records of anyone who buys a gun from a dealer or an individual.

    Though this bill passed out of the Assembly, the Senate failed to gain enough votes of support before the 12:00am deadline.

    More Information: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalert...n-and-rif.html

    FAILED: AB 1934, which would make it an offense to carry firearms openly in holsters.

    This bill went through many revisions. Though it initially passed out of the Assembly and then the Senate with amendments, the Assembly failed to approve these amendments before the 12:00am deadline.

    More Information: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/01/299...-acrimony.html

    FAILED: AB 2223, which would prohibit the possession or use of any shotgun shell loaded with anything other than nontoxic shot when hunting.

    This bill passed through the Assembly but failed to get through the Senate Natural Resources and Water Committee.

    I want to extend my deepest gratitude to all of you who continue to fight for our 2nd amendment rights. It is because of your support and resolve that we were able to rally to defeat these harmful proposals. It is outrageous that these kinds of bills are even being considered. We need to focus our efforts on strengthening the economy and creating jobs, not punishing and regulating law abiding citizens.

    Please continue to spread the word and educate others when our basic rights are challenged. Together, we can prevail. I will not give up the fight to protect our basic rights and I hope you will also continue this cause. Thank you for your support.

    It is an honor to serve you.

    Sincerely,

    Assemblyman Curt Hagman
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    I just had to watch the video again seeing her say "i think its out of order to pass on this bill" and then being shot down "No its in order" Saldana how does your foot taste?

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