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    Associated Press - California legislature rejects bill to ban open

    Today is a great day for the People of California. Despite the best efforts of Assemblywoman Lori Saldana and the dirty political tricks used by her cronies in the Senate, AB 1934 was killed on the Assembly floor by the efforts of Republican Assemblyman Chuck DeVore. It's good to see that we still have a few politicians here in California who take their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution seriously!!!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...niagunban.html

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. —
    California lawmakers have rejected a bill that would have made it illegal to carry unloaded guns in public.

    The Senate narrowly approved the measure Tuesday, the last day of the regular legislative session, on a 21-16 vote. But it failed in the Assembly. . . .

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    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...2QRcgD9HUVUBO0

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090100612.html
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    Not sure, but I think Jeffries has to be credited also. According to some posts on calguns he was in their mixing it up and stalling/fillibustering to run out the clock.

    Hooray AB1934 is dead, liberty lives. Call Saldana and rub it in her socialist face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOTFORLONG View Post
    At least 2o threads on this subject.
    Mine was the first LOL

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    Oh this just made my day..... Best news I could ask for... Well the second best. I'm still hoping to hear from my wife "I'm leaving you forever"... ROFL

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    Congratulations!!!

    God Bless all open carry supporters in California!! Congratulations on the victory.

    Now is not the time to rest. Get active and let's make California a shall issue concealed carry state and change unloaded to loaded open carry!

    We just fought an open carry assault here in Topeka, KS in June and won! We need to stick together nation wide.

    California is special to me because I was stationed at Camp Pendleton from 1984-1988. Best time of my life.

    Great Job!

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    hey

    YA! Congratulations great victory for CA and for the rest of the U.S.
    Patrick Henry didn't say "Give me safety , or give me death". Liberty is what America is about.

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    Hey right on Cool, but lets just remind her that she was wrong to take this issue on the way she did.

    Liberty Lives! Yes, for now.

    Remain vigilant as always.

    Why in hell to we have to fight these battles anyway. Well I guess it will have to be good enough to keep fighting on!

    I for one am not elated as much as glad I am not bummed out again by irresponsible legislation.

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    Great news! Keep fighting the fight, I have a feeling your Cali politicians won't give up that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    Great news! Keep fighting the fight, I have a feeling your Cali politicians won't give up that easy.
    Ha! They have yet to begin to violate our rights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    Great news! Keep fighting the fight, I have a feeling your Cali politicians won't give up that easy.
    You are on the mark there. There is a Lori Saldana under every rock and they are breeding.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    I don't post much, but I follow everything that goes on here on this forum and with our legislature that is 2A related. I'm very pleased that my state Senator (Huff) is a very pro-2A guy, and to my amazement even sent a letter back to me in acknowledgment of my letter to him on this bill and his opposition to it.

    We still have a long way to go to restore our complete 2A rights in this State but this is small victory toward the greater cause. Keep up the good work everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moleculo View Post
    I don't post much, but I follow everything that goes on here on this forum and with our legislature that is 2A related. I'm very pleased that my state Senator (Huff) is a very pro-2A guy, and to my amazement even sent a letter back to me in acknowledgment of my letter to him on this bill and his opposition to it.

    We still have a long way to go to restore our complete 2A rights in this State but this is small victory toward the greater cause. Keep up the good work everyone!
    He is the only one who acknowledged my email, and I'm not in his district. All the others just asked for donations.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    Went even further than I originally thought I would. I Called Lori's Sac office and politely asked that she do the people's business and refrain from being a... Domestic Enemy
    Last edited by PaleoCon; 09-03-2010 at 09:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoCon View Post
    Went even further than I originally thought I would. I Called Lori's Sac office and politely asked that she do the people's business and refrain from being a... Domestic Enemy

    and on that note, you are now on CA Most Wanted,

    most wanted to be a normal U.S. citizen

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    Congratulations To Kalifornia OCers

    A hearty congratulations to those OCers in Kalifornia for keeping "some" of your rights intact. This is a great victory but you know the job is far from complete. This battle doesn't end the war. The enemy is re-grouping and you'll have to fight even harder next time. You should go on the offensive and try for the loosening of even more restrictions of your liberties. We're behind you and we'll do all we can to help!

    Keep fighting the good fight!
    Check out my home page @ www.alabamaopencarry.com and Carry On!

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    Outstanding!

    I think the key comment here is: "It's good to see that we still have a few politicians here in California who take their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution seriously!!!"

    Ms. Saldana did not. She violated the oath she swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America when she proposed this bill, as did the 21 members of the California Senate who voted for this bill.

    Mark their names. VOTE THEM OUT. We do NOTneed "Americans" in office who refuse to uphold their vow of office.

    Thank God for the General Assembly!
    Last edited by since9; 09-25-2010 at 08:04 PM.
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    OC in San Diego

    I'm going to OC in San Diego some time soon just to spite them. Anyone wanna join me?

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    This is a good thing considering California used to be HIGHLY strict on firearms and limit you how much you can carry ammo wise. 2 years ago I was told by a police officer that I could not carry more 12 rounds of 40 caliber ammo. I asked him where this law was and he could not tell me. I got stopped by another officer later in the day and neither of them could tell me where I can find this rule of "Limited amount of Ammo".

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    That is because there never was a ammo limit law. They can say what they want, but until they find a code, and write it down, don't worry to much about it.

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    OC in California

    Keep fighting folks, Unloaded OC is usless, and it needs to be changed to "Shall Carry" LOADED. I personally would like to see a National OC law and if you choose to carry concealed then you can have a National CCW permit as well. No odd ball wording from state to state,, no need to learn 50 different laws on firearms.. make them all the same Nation wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dragon View Post
    Today is a great day for the People of California. Despite the best efforts of Assemblywoman Lori Saldana and the dirty political tricks used by her cronies in the Senate, AB 1934 was killed on the Assembly floor by the efforts of Republican Assemblyman Chuck DeVore. It's good to see that we still have a few politicians here in California who take their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution seriously!!!
    It's still too close to relax. In fact, we can never relax until we have turned the American people to our support and realize that our fight is their fight. These unConstitutionalist warthogs never stop trying. There definitely needs to be a house cleaning in the Senate of the anti-gunners. In fact, in both houses. We need some judicial ammo to clear them out. Our problem is too many libtards hold seats in the courts of our state and our nation.
    Last edited by kittyhawk63; 10-21-2010 at 12:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marine0300 View Post
    God Bless all open carry supporters in California!! Congratulations on the victory.

    Now is not the time to rest. Get active and let's make California a shall issue concealed carry state and change unloaded to loaded open carry!

    We just fought an open carry assault here in Topeka, KS in June and won! We need to stick together nation wide.

    California is special to me because I was stationed at Camp Pendleton from 1984-1988. Best time of my life.

    Great Job!

    Marine0300
    I was a Navy corpsman stationed at Camp Pendelton (San Mateo camp) 1963-64. I really liked it, too. Second best tour...next to being aboard the U.S. Kitty Hawk CVA-63.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoCon View Post
    Hey right on Cool, but lets just remind her that she was wrong to take this issue on the way she did.

    May I say, she was wrong to take this issue on at all, as well as all those who voted in favor of her bill.
    Last edited by kittyhawk63; 10-15-2010 at 07:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    Keep fighting folks, Unloaded OC is usless, and it needs to be changed to "Shall Carry" LOADED. I personally would like to see a National OC law and if you choose to carry concealed then you can have a National CCW permit as well. No odd ball wording from state to state,, no need to learn 50 different laws on firearms.. make them all the same Nation wide.
    Hear, hear!

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    I couldn't agree more about a National OC or CC licensing. Fortunately, I live at the present in Georgia and there isn't a prevalent problem here. Most LEOS agree with a sane individual carrying a legal weapon.

    All I can say further is everyone should not abuse what we have and work toward enhancing our benefits.

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