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    'No Firearms Allowed' sign at Walworth County Fair

    My wife wanted to see Josh Turner so we went to the fair yesterday. Even though it is surrounded by 3 schools, it is private property and doesn't serve alcohol I was planning on popping my City of Elkhorn OC cherry. This would of also been the 1st time my wife 'allowed' me to OC in her presence. Imagine my surprise when at all the entrances there are signs saying 'No Firearms Allowed on Fair Property' at all entrances.

    Not a happy camper!

    I still went to alleviate possible marital discord.

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    We will see more and more of this as carry becomes more mainstream.

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    YEP. Just like we saw more-and-more discrimination against the free exercise of other civil rights. Then after lawsuits and legislative action those other minorities received protected status and cannot be discriminated against. Likewise, those who carry WILL get protected status and prohibiting carry WILL be illegal, it will take time, that is all.

    In the mean time, we need to show these people/organizations do NOT support the US or WI constitutions. We need to point out this type of prejudice as what it is, prejudice, every time we see it.

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    Gun-phobia will then be driven underground as all other discriminations called mere "prejudice" have been. Zero tolerance is PC code for thoughtlessness.

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    no guns allowed? how rude, apparently they want you to spend your money elsewhere. take the hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    no guns allowed? how rude, apparently they want you to spend your money elsewhere. take the hint.
    this is the way I am reading this.
    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

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    I sent this to the fair board:

    I was surprised during the fair to see a sign at all entrances stating 'Firearms prohibited'. These seem to be new. When I was at the Walworth County Dairy Breakfast, I did not see them.

    Why is this policy in place? Most other places of business allow carrying of firearms in accordance to state and local laws. You having these signs assure that the only armed people are criminals.

    I would appreciate some feedback on this policy and would be willing to work with your board to adjust it.

    People who legally open carry in accordance with WI law and both the Federal and State Constitution are well behaved and want to spend our money at the fair, however, your prohibition locks us out of the fair and doesn't allow us to enjoy the festivities.

    Thanks!

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    NO Firearms Sign at Goose Island

    I spent Labor Day at Goose Island Campground just south of LaCrosse and when entering I saw a sign, "No Firearms". I already had the holster on but kept the gun in the case, except when walking around during the night.

    When I checked out in the morning I dropped off 2 leaflets and asked about the sign and explained that it is TRULY LEGAL to carry. I was told the sign was intended for duck hunters. They were looking over the leaflets when I left and said they would refer them to someone higher up the ladder.

    I found a no firearms clause in the County Parks rules, updated 12/09. Must be time to send off some mail.

    http://www.co.la-crosse.wi.us/Depart.../ParkRules.pdf

    On Sept 14 the following was received. This was one answer out of the two emails sent a full week before. This is LaCrosse county.

    I have previously asked our County Corporation Counsel, William Shepherd, to investigate this issue. He has been researching the matter. I expect he will have a recommendation at some point in the near future. However, until such time as he reaches a conclusion our ordinance remains in effect and I would encourage you not to openly carry a firearm in any of our County parks.

    Thank you for your inquiry.

    Steve Doyle
    County Board Chair
    Last edited by Krusty; 09-15-2010 at 09:06 AM. Reason: Additional information

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    The Ozaukee County Fair is held at Firemans Park in Cedarburg. They have a no firearm sign at the entrances also.

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    Is the Walworth County Fair grounds for sure private property or is it owned by the county? If it is county property then the prohibition, as the sign reads, is in my opinion unconstitutional. State statutes do not restrict firearm possession on public property, only within the buildings. That in itself may make a contest a bitter/sweat victory. Never the less the fair board should be made aware of the fact. Then again, if it is public property, you run afoul of the nefarious GFSZ. What a convoluted mess the Wisconsin firearm statutes are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nemo View Post
    Is the Walworth County Fair grounds for sure private property or is it owned by the county? If it is county property then the prohibition, as the sign reads, is in my opinion unconstitutional. State statutes do not restrict firearm possession on public property, only within the buildings. That in itself may make a contest a bitter/sweat victory. Never the less the fair board should be made aware of the fact. Then again, if it is public property, you run afoul of the nefarious GFSZ. What a convoluted mess the Wisconsin firearm statutes are.
    I have verified with several places including the Sheriff of Walworth County, David Graves, that it is private property. As you said, if it wasn't, OC would NOT be allowed since it is surrounded by 3 schools.

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    It is on the tax rolls as owned by the agricultural society.

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    Reply from County Board Chairman

    On Sept 14 the following was received. This was one answer out of the two emails sent a full week before. This is LaCrosse county.

    I have previously asked our County Corporation Counsel, William Shepherd, to investigate this issue. He has been researching the matter. I expect he will have a recommendation at some point in the near future. However, until such time as he reaches a conclusion our ordinance remains in effect and I would encourage you not to openly carry a firearm in any of our County parks.

    Thank you for your inquiry.

    Steve Doyle
    County Board Chair

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