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    Thumbs up NRA-PVF Endorses Dino Rossi for U.S. Senate in Washington

    http://www.nrapvf.org/news/Read.aspx?ID=14214&T=1

    NRA-PVF Endorses Dino Rossi for U.S. Senate in Washington

    Wednesday, September 08, 2010


    Fairfax, Va.-- The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) is endorsing Dino Rossi for election to the U.S. Senate in Washington this November.

    “Dino Rossi is the gun owners’ and hunters’ choice in this race,” said Chris W. Cox, chairman of NRA-PVF. “He is a solid defender of the Second Amendment who will stand up for the rights of gun owners in Washington and across the United States, earning him the NRA-PVF endorsement.”

    During his time as a Washington State Senator, Dino Rossi supported pro-gun efforts and was always “A” rated by NRA-PVF. Rossi supports national right-to-carry reciprocity and efforts to reform the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He also opposes reenacting the failed Clinton gun and magazine ban and believes sportsmen should have access to federally-owned or administered lands for hunting, fishing, trapping and recreational shooting.

    Dino Rossi’s commitment to preserving the Second Amendment has earned him an “A” rating and the endorsement of NRA-PVF.

    “Dino Rossi will be a strong voice in fighting ongoing efforts by anti-gun politicians to dismantle the Second Amendment,” Cox concluded. “We ask all Washington gun-owners and hunters to vote Dino Rossi for U.S. Senate on November 2nd.”

    Chris W. Cox is NRA's chief lobbyist. He also serves as chairman of NRA-PVF. The National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund is responsible for political candidate rankings. These are based on candidate voting records, public statements and responses to NRA-PVF questionnaires.

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    *yawn*

    Sorry, the NRA has pretty much lost all credibility with me. Of course I'm going to vote for Dino over Crabby Patty, but the NRA has nothing to do with this, (or any other) decision.

    Now, if the SAF or GOA were to recommend or endorse someone, they would have my ear.

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    The NRA supports a republican Personally, I am not voting for Rossi. The purported anti-firearm agenda on the "left" appears to not exist. Yes, the Clinton ban was useless, and a losing political battled for anyone who supports any ban like the Clinton AWB. Since no actual AWB is on the table, and anything proposed stood no chance in hell, I deem AWB warnings to be fear-mongering at best.

    Rossi is an indecisive scumbag, and I hope that he loses again for his third time, that way, I can listen to the right cry about Washington being a "vote as many times as you like" state, and all of that other losing party false accusations, finger pointing, and fear mongering.
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    I had already decided to vote for Rossi. The NRA endorsement doesn't change my mind, but as the GreatWhite Lama said, the GOA and SAF have much more credibility.

    Patty has to go. Not just for here stand on the 2nd Amendment, but for her stands on most other issues. If Rossi wins, I will write him a letter saying I voted while giving him the benefit of the doubt, and if he does not work to support the Constitution, I will not support him next go-around. I did not find his actions as a state senator very impressive or encouraging.

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    I'm only voting for him as an "anybody but patty" vote, but I'm not happy about it. The fact that he won't go on the record and hides his position about some issues (including guns!) bothers me. That said, I doubt he'd be worse than patty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight_308 View Post
    I'm only voting for him as an "anybody but patty" vote, but I'm not happy about it. The fact that he won't go on the record and hides his position about some issues (including guns!) bothers me. That said, I doubt he'd be worse than patty.
    I'm not convinced that he has any position on any issues at all, other than a reflexive "taxes = bad." I'm not sure there is much of anything behind the goofy half-smile he wears constantly. It's completely possible that he has no position on any issue because he doesn't know, or even care, about any issue.

    Having said that, I'm not voting for either candidate; they're both equally undesireable to me. Between dumb and dumber, I will abstain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    The NRA supports a republican Personally, I am not voting for Rossi. The purported anti-firearm agenda on the "left" appears to not exist. Yes, the Clinton ban was useless, and a losing political battled for anyone who supports any ban like the Clinton AWB. Since no actual AWB is on the table, and anything proposed stood no chance in hell, I deem AWB warnings to be fear-mongering at best.

    Rossi is an indecisive scumbag, and I hope that he loses again for his third time, that way, I can listen to the right cry about Washington being a "vote as many times as you like" state, and all of that other losing party false accusations, finger pointing, and fear mongering.
    I suppose when you pick your issues....the decisions get harder to

    According to this google search: his opponent's position on "more restrictions on guns" seems to be pretty clear.

    http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=53358

    and more info comprehensive to record

    http://www.votesmart.org/voting_cate...p?can_id=53358
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt59 View Post
    According to this google search: his opponent's position on "more restrictions on guns" seems to be pretty clear.

    I don't refute that she is anti-gun. It is not her position, but what she can actually do about it, which is nothing, nada, zip. As a result, I focus on other issues. The 2nd Amendment isn't the only Amendment in the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    I don't refute that she is anti-gun. It is not her position, but what she can actually do about it, which is nothing, nada, zip. As a result, I focus on other issues. The 2nd Amendment isn't the only Amendment in the Constitution.
    I suppose that is true, but then what are they there for?....

    She also voted in favor of partial/late term abortion

    She also voted to eliminate the death penalty and have it changed to "life imprisonment"

    With the Dems in power, they seem to be getting a lot done (whether you agree with the issues or not)....and so I would disagree that she is getting "nada,zip" done....even if all you do is vote the party line (and their partly platform planks) you end up on one side or the other of the partisanship.....

    What did Rob Emanual say about not letting a good crisis go to waste....

    There's plenty of trash to toss around on both sides of this for sure....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt59 View Post
    I suppose that is true, but then what are they there for?....

    She also voted in favor of partial/late term abortion

    She also voted to eliminate the death penalty and have it changed to "life imprisonment"

    With the Dems in power, they seem to be getting a lot done (whether you agree with the issues or not)....and so I would disagree that she is getting "nada,zip" done....even if all you do is vote the party line (and their partly platform planks) you end up on one side or the other of the partisanship.....

    What did Rob Emanual say about not letting a good crisis go to waste....

    There's plenty of trash to toss around on both sides of this for sure....
    Partial/late term abortion: I would like to know the context of that support. Why she supports it. I am positive she does not support it because she likes killing unborn babies. If it is in the case of the mothers life being in danger, I fully support partial/late term abortion. I also support sterilization for women who have more than two abortions and are chronic drug users (addicts), and i support the sterilization of men who have multiple children with multiple women.

    The death penalty is NOT a deterrent. I support the death penalty. If the death penalty was done away with, I could care less though.

    You are right, you end up on either side. It appears the side I end up on the most is Democrat, but I do believe in and support a number of republican issues.

    No party lets a good crisis go to waste, hence the Iraq invasion post 9-11.

    Politics is sh*t flinging. That is the way it has always been.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    Partial/late term abortion: I would like to know the context of that support. Why she supports it. I am positive she does not support it because she likes killing unborn babies. If it is in the case of the mothers life being in danger, I fully support partial/late term abortion.
    Her position:

    Senator Murray voted NO

    Project Vote Smart's Synopsis:

    ..... to pass a bill that prohibits any individual from knowingly performing a procedure, in which a fetus is partially delivered before it is aborted, unless the life of the woman is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.


    Highlights:

    -Imposes fines or up to two years in prison for those who knowingly perform the procedure.

    -Allows accused doctor to seek hearing before the State Medical Board.

    -Allows woman's husband to seek damages from the doctor who performed the procedure through civil suit, unless the pregnancy resulted from his criminal conduct.

    -Allow woman's parents, if the woman is under the age of 18, to seek damages from the doctor who performed the procedure through civil suit, unless the pregnancy resulted from their criminal conduct.

    -Prohibits prosecution of the woman on whom the abortion is performed.

    http://www.votesmart.org/issue_keyvo...0&can_id=53358
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt59 View Post
    -Imposes fines or up to two years in prison for those who knowingly perform the procedure.

    -Allows accused doctor to seek hearing before the State Medical Board.

    -Allows woman's husband to seek damages from the doctor who performed the procedure through civil suit, unless the pregnancy resulted from his criminal conduct.

    -Allow woman's parents, if the woman is under the age of 18, to seek damages from the doctor who performed the procedure through civil suit, unless the pregnancy resulted from their criminal conduct.
    I am sure this was the reason she voted NO. As feel-good it might be that parents should be made aware of the pregnancy and the sought abortion, some young women are raped, and some young women definitely have parents that would force them to carry the child to term.

    I am absolutely against parents determining whether the child has to carry to term or not. As far as I am concerned, it is the young womans body, and she should make the choice. The young woman should be given all options, and given time to decide, IMO, but at the end of the day, it is up to the young woman, not parents, not the state, not the courts, not God.

    As for the other items, the man should be heard IMO, but less of a say than the woman, since it is her body, not his.

    The other items are meant to deter doctors from opening themselves up to criminal prosecution or being sued. Doctors should not be held accountable for anything but negligence. Aborting a fetus is not negligence.

    Yes, I have four children. I never once considered aborting any of them, and neither did my wife. Since she carried the children, that was her decision, and hers alone; it is her body, not mine.
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    We'll just have to agree to disagree....
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    BTW, to weave this back into the general topic of the 2nd Amendment. At the heart of the above response is the right to do with our body what we wish. Determining what is done with our body is, or should be a fundamental right.

    If the state tells a woman that she can not choose what to do with her body, and whoever might inhabit it is the beginning of a slippery slope. The state tells us that we can not make a decision about our body with regard to reproduction, then the state tells us that we can not engage in self-defense to preserve the life of our body.

    Then the state tells us that we can not use a firearm to preserve the life of our body. Where does it end, seriously?
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

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    Yeah. The unborn doesn't have a say in it, right? As far as God not having a say in it, you're walking on pretty thin ice.

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    A wrinkle...

    I agree that she will not do much about it. However, the amendment to allow 50 state reciprocity lost by just two votes a few years ago. Murray was one of those votes. If Murray had not been in office perhaps it would of gone the other way. It will come up for a vote again soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    I don't refute that she is anti-gun. It is not her position, but what she can actually do about it, which is nothing, nada, zip. As a result, I focus on other issues. The 2nd Amendment isn't the only Amendment in the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    I agree that she will not do much about it. However, the amendment to allow 50 state reciprocity lost by just two votes a few years ago. Murray was one of those votes. If Murray had not been in office perhaps it would of gone the other way. It will come up for a vote again soon.
    .....that wrinkle would be my nose....and the good Senator not passing the sniff test.....the website I posted earlier has some pretty comprehensive and detailed info available on everyone running for offices, if you want to spend the time drilling down enough.....this next election is too important to make decisions on campaign ads, PAC groups and sound bites slinging mud.....

    do do diligence and maybe we can stay out of the poo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeak View Post
    Yeah. The unborn doesn't have a say in it, right? As far as God not having a say in it, you're walking on pretty thin ice.
    No, a fetus doesn't have a say in it; they do not have the capacity. So it is left to the mother. If God had a say in it, God would perform miracles and stop a fetus from being aborted, that has not been the case. But if God did that, then God would make all of you would-be tax dodgers pay more in taxes to support unaborted fetuses that are given up for adoption and raised by the government.

    I wonder how many anti-choice people would adopt an unaborted fetus if they had their way and abortion was abolished; a small fraction, guaranteed!

    Back to the 2nd Amendment, the fundamental right to do with our bodies what we wish should remain intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    No, a fetus doesn't have a say in it; they do not have the capacity. ...But if God did that, then God would make all of you would-be tax dodgers pay more in taxes to support unaborted fetuses that are given up for adoption and raised by the government.

    I wonder how many anti-choice people would adopt an unaborted fetus if they had their way and abortion was abolished; a small fraction, guaranteed!
    Actually, we like to be called Pro-life as I am sure the other side doesn't like to be called Pro-Abortion.

    .....and I have a great little grandson from a less than great relationship but a good follow on decision that's given me my new fishing partner....

    ....and I have a great older sister that I never knew until the B.S. adoption laws in Michigan allowed her access to a letter my sister put in her file there 20 years ago because of a pro-life parent, and grew up in a loving family (65 now) that did adopt her....but you better not say anything about my Mama.

    I pay my taxes, and so does my (newly discovered) sister, who also runs a 1,400 acre farm and produces more food than she eats, and my daughter is working nights, while we provide childcare to help her make ends meet...and she pays her taxes too.....all of them.

    Can't say so much for the deadbeat dad that is unemployed, $4,000 behind in child support and working under the table for cash doing Karoke gigs and not paying taxes on anything....

    Be careful when you try to catagorize us all in the same box of hash. I don't think that we're as small a fraction as you claim.....
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    HAHAHAHAHA...thankyou!...........you're right~!

    I'm done

    I'm voting for ROSSI!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt59 View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA...thankyou!...........you're right~!

    I'm done

    I'm voting for ROSSI!
    Fortunately for the good of the Thread I'm too busy right now to start throwing pennies... but my tounge has teeth marks








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    This feels like....A space odyssey

    Dave, stop. Stop, will you? Stop, Dave. Will you stop, Dave? Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it....

    Daisy, Da..isy, give me your answer do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt59 View Post
    Dave, stop. Stop, will you? Stop, Dave. Will you stop, Dave? Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it....

    Daisy, Da..isy, give me your answer do....

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    Where'd you find those 3 guys? Ahh, I see now!
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