gogodawgs
Campaign Veteran
Do you have to wait for the swing?
Or, if you see someone with a steel bar should you be in fear for your life? Let's say there is an unknown car in my driveway and I go out to look. Walking towards me a man has a steel bar and he is within 15 feet of me or so. It is 11:30 at night. I would be in fear for my life I am almost sure.
Exactly! The perception in these two cases seems to be widely different.
Good question. Does an off-duty LEO ever cease being a civilian when he encounters this type of situation?
Or, if you see someone with a steel bar should you be in fear for your life? Let's say there is an unknown car in my driveway and I go out to look. Walking towards me a man has a steel bar and he is within 15 feet of me or so. It is 11:30 at night. I would be in fear for my life I am almost sure.
Hear, hear!
In my humble opinion, as soon as that initial swing started, all need to further communicate with the aggressor ceased.
At that point, lethal force in self defense may commence.
(For many civilians, not necessarily as well trained or practiced as a State Patrol Trooper, even having a potential aggressor step forward after being told to stand down or otherwise warned is sometimes enough, depending on conditions, to make lethal force in self defense legitimate.)
BTW, thanks for popping up that link again, deanf. Every time I follow a link to that article I read the whole thing again. A lot of good information concentrated there.
Interesting over here in Spokane LE is making a big deal out of Pastor Creach leaving the safety of his home to investigate a suspicious car on his property. Of course the suspicious car was an unmarked police car and Creach ended up dead. Kind of a double standard again so I got to agree with Devildoc5. I am not faulting the trooper here just pointing out difference between the perception of a civilan and a LEO that should not be.
Exactly! The perception in these two cases seems to be widely different.
Did not the trooper cease being a civilian when he declared himself a law-enforcement officer?
Good question. Does an off-duty LEO ever cease being a civilian when he encounters this type of situation?