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    Was asked to leaved Walmart East, Green Bay, then told I was ok

    I arrived at Walmart last night at about 1030 with a friend to wait in line so that I could pay the 150 dollars to get the new Halo Reach, Legendary Edition that launched at midnight. At first, it was just my friend and I, we just milled around, looking at stuff and bullshtting. After about 45 minutes, two managers approached me and told I can't have my weapon in the store. I politely told them this has happened in Walmarts across the state and every time the end result has been policy is to follow state laws. We discussed things a little further and continued to as they walked me to the door. I was going to put the pistol in my truck and come right back, because nothing was stopping me from getting this game, also considering since Walmart only had 2 Legendary Editions. As soon as I turned arounnd after putting the pistol in my truck, one of the managers told me he called higher up and they told him what I told him, that the policy is to follow state law. Score one.

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    Nice work!

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    i'm glad to see it resolved in favor of you. but you ever notice how people are quick to say no, you can't do that, then later end up eating crow? Just shows the mentality present, and that the public has a long way to go, and we have our work cut out for us.

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    Handled it very well. If they want you out, leave BUT always ask them to get clarification from THE manager or CORPORATE OFFICE.

    Enjoy the game and continue to carry.

    Again, well done!

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    I like it. Very well done.

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    Very nicely done. Keep up the good work up there in Packer land.

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    I think that the idea of people handling guns in their parking lots and storing guns in cars ultimately scares retail executives more than paying customer carying while shopping.

    Public handling and storing of weapons should be avaoided whenever possible.

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    Public handling and storing of weapons should be avaoided whenever possible.


    mike, were stuck with public handling and storing to comply with vehicle transport laws here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I think that the idea of people handling guns in their parking lots and storing guns in cars ultimately scares retail executives more than paying customer carying while shopping.

    Public handling and storing of weapons should be avaoided whenever possible.
    Agree 200%, however, WI vehicle carry laws preclude any other options. We must have weapons unloaded and encased in vehicles.

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    Well done, cool, calm and in the end right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    Agree 200%, however, WI vehicle carry laws preclude any other options. We must have weapons unloaded and encased in vehicles.
    Do we? I think the LEO in my area appreciate that I don't rack the slide every time I get in and out of my vehicle anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Public handling and storing of weapons should be avoided whenever possible.
    I think many LEO agree and feel THAT is more important than enforcing 167.31.

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    walmart and alochal

    Does the east side sell alochol? I know the west side does and is it illeagal to carry in there because they do sell or maybe I inturpet the law wrong. but i thought it read sell or consume alochol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane28 View Post
    Does the east side sell alochol? I know the west side does and is it illeagal to carry in there because they do sell or maybe I inturpet the law wrong. but i thought it read sell or consume alochol.
    You can carry in a liquor store, you just cannot carry where they sell alcohol by the drink (bar, restaurant, saloon) without permission of the liquor license holder. Technically, the law reads, premises with a class-b liquor license.
    Last edited by paul@paul-fisher.com; 09-15-2010 at 01:01 PM.

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    Thank you. I misunderstood and dont know much on liqour lincese. well off the grocery store than.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane28 View Post
    Does the east side sell alochol? I know the west side does and is it illeagal to carry in there because they do sell or maybe I inturpet the law wrong. but i thought it read sell or consume alochol.
    From the Wisconsin Carry, Inc web site:

    941.237 Carrying handgun where alcohol beverages may be sold and consumed.
    (1) In this section:
    (a) “Alcohol beverages” has the meaning given in s. 125.02(1).
    (b) “Correctional officer” means any person employed by the state or any political subdivision as a guard or officer whose principal duties are the supervision and discipline of inmates.
    (c) “Encased” has the meaning given in s. 167.31 (1) (b). (cm) “Firearms dealer” means
    any person engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing or dealing in firearms and having a license as an importer, manufacturer or dealer issued by the U.S. department of the treasury.
    (d) “Handgun” has the meaning given in s. 175.35 (1) (b). (dm) “Hotel” has the meaning given in s. 254.61 (3). (dr) Notwithstanding s. 939.22 (22), “peace officer” does not include a commission warden who is not a state−certified commission warden.
    (e) “Premises” has the meaning given in s. 125.02 (14m), but excludes any area primarily used as a residence. (em) “Private security person” has the meaning given in s. 440.26 (1m) (h).
    (f) “Target range” means any area where persons are allowed to use a handgun
    to fire shots at targets. (fm) “Tavern” means an establishment, other than a private club or fraternal organization, in which alcohol beverages are sold for consumption on the
    premises.
    (g) “Unloaded” means any of the following: 1. Having no shell or cartridge in
    the chamber of a handgun or in the magazine attached to a handgun. 2. In the case of a
    caplock muzzle−loading handgun, having the cap removed. 3. In the case of a flintlock
    muzzle−loading handgun, having the flashpan cleaned of powder.

    (2) Whoever intentionally goes armed with a handgun on any premises for which a Class “B” or “Class B” license or permit has been issued under ch. 125 is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

    (3) Subsection (2) does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) A peace officer.
    (b) A correctional officer while going armed in the line of duty.
    (c) A member of the U.S. armed forces or national guard while going armed in the line of duty. (cm) A private security person meeting all of the following criteria: 1. The private security person is covered by a license or permit issued under s. 440.26. 2. The private security person is going armed in the line of duty. 3. The private security person is acting with the consent of the person specified in par. (d).
    (d) The licensee, owner, or manager of the premises, or any employee or agent authorized to possess a handgun by the licensee, owner, or manager of the premises. (e) The possession of a handgun that is unloaded and encased in a vehicle in any parking lot area.
    (f) The possession or use of a handgun at a public or private gun or sportsmen’s range or club.
    (g) The possession or use of a handgun on the premises if authorized for a specific event of limited duration by the owner or manager of the premises who is issued the Class “B” or “Class B” license or permit under ch. 125
    for the premises.
    (h) The possession of any handgun that is used for decoration if the handgun is encased, inoperable or secured in a locked condition.
    (i) The possession of a handgun in any portion of a hotel other than the portion of the hotel that is a tavern.
    (j) The possession of a handgun in any portion of a combination tavern and store devoted to other business if the store is owned or operated by a firearms dealer, the other business includes the sale of handguns and the handgun is possessed in a place other than a tavern.

    (4) The state does not have to negate any exception under sub. (3). Any party that claims that an exception under sub. (3) is applicable has the burden of proving the exception by a preponderance of the evidence. History: 1993 a. 95, 491; 1995 a. 461; 2007 a. 27. Sub. (3) does not allow going armed with a concealed handgun in violation of s.941.23. State v. Mata, 199 Wis. 2d 315, 544 N.W.2d 578 (Ct. App. 1996), 95−1336.
    So in a nutshell:
    1. We carry where they sell, so long as they don't consume.
    2. We carry where they sell AND consume with prior approval.
    3. These restrictions only pertain to handguns. Long guns CAN be carried into these establishments without prior consent.

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    kudos on the encounter!

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    Good to see they got an answer right away.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

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