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    Quiz for newbies to decide if they are ready to open carry in California

    http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/...-in-california

    Feel free to toss out questions and I'll add them in. I figured having a brief quiz would help newbies decide for themselves how acquainted they are with the various Californian laws.

    After you answer, be sure to click on "View Answer" if you want an explanation for why you were right or wrong.
    Last edited by bigtoe416; 09-16-2010 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/...-in-california

    Feel free to toss out questions and I'll add them in. I figured having a brief quiz would help newbies decide for themselves how acquainted they are with the various Californian laws.
    Rats, I flunked.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    Incorrect 50% answered this correctly. 50% answered wrong
    Q.4) Where can you legally open carry a firearm?

    E. The State Capitol (missed)
    Explanation
    You can also carry at the State Capitol but you cannot have ammunition on your person that your firearm can use. You could have a friend hold on to it as long as he didn't give it to you.
    Vague - open carry implies having ammo

    Strictly speaking "Open Carry" at OCDO = LOADED or LOC for short int he CA subforum


    Incorrect 50% answered this correctly. 50% answered wrong
    Q.5) Where are some lawful places you can openly place a handgun in your car if you know you won't be traveling through any school zones?

    C. Trunk (missed)
    Explanation
    Generally you must keep your handgun visible to open carry it in a car. Places like the floor of the car are a bad idea to put your handgun since it could easily become concealed or be argued that it is hard to see and thus concealed. The center console and the glove box, locked or not are both unlawful places to carry a handgun.
    If its in the trunk; it isn't 'open'
    An unlocked trunk (trunk accessible via pass thru for example) is a CCW violation (concealing a handgun in a vehicle)


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    btw, I think this is a GREAT idea! I'll try to PM you some Q/A if I can find the time.
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    Does this give correct answers?

    For those of us out of state, just looking for a brief education, (and appreciation for our own states, I'll warrant) does this quiz inform the taker of the correct answer in case the question is answered incorrectly? Sorry if this is answered above, but I saw a question/answer and didn't want a spoiler for the quiz.

    Never mind, I took it and see that it does include explanations. The quiz is very well done, kudos.

    I got a 57%. Good thing I'm on the other end of the country!
    Last edited by sultan62; 09-15-2010 at 05:49 PM.

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    missed two questions

    Actually I forgot to check a box on 2 questions - where can you open carry legally in your car? Forgot to check the trunk option. But I thought that wouldn't be "open carry". I would really be a violation of your 4th amendment for a check in your trunk & the trunk is a locked container. So that's not really a true answer to the question. I was ripped off on that one I think!
    The 2nd question was where can you open carry - I missed checking the box that says Preschool. While Preschool is not in the k-12 range I would probably avoid unloaded open carry in a preschool. Could you imagine all the other parents fainting as you came to pick up your child?!!!
    Anyway attached is my "certificate".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurferStevo View Post
    ...Could you imagine all the other parents fainting as you came to pick up your child?!!!.
    This kind of expected hysteria is part of the problem here.

    I've not once experienced such hysteria and I've open carried in all sorts of settings with children of all ages and their families.

    In fact, the young children are the most accepting and inquisitive, leading to many positive conversations with their parents about open carry.

    If we continue to spread this myth that people will freak out, people will keep believing it is true, when it is just a myth.
    Last edited by hgreen; 09-15-2010 at 07:36 PM.

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    Thanks for the pointers mjones, I've updated the quiz to reflect the inaccuracies.

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    Great idea, I'll have to take the quiz when I have more time. Shouldn't a "passing" score of 100% be required to get a cert? Afterall, in reality one mistake could mean losing your gun rights for 10 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/...-in-california

    Feel free to toss out questions and I'll add them in. I figured having a brief quiz would help newbies decide for themselves how acquainted they are with the various Californian laws.
    I scored 90 out of 100. But the answer to the question I got wrong was incorrect.

    The question asked if you had no ammunition could you open carry a firearm at the State Capitol. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this answer is NO- While you could UOC around the Capitol on the city sidewalks, but weapons are prohibited because the State Capitol grounds are considered a State Park.
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
    CL SUBJ IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW


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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    The question asked if you had no ammunition could you open carry a firearm at the State Capitol. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this answer is NO- While you could UOC around the Capitol on the city sidewalks, but weapons are prohibited because the State Capitol grounds are considered a State Park.
    It's possible that I'm wrong, but here is the penal code I was basing that question on:

    171c. Any person, except a duly appointed peace officer as defined
    in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a
    full-time paid peace officer of another state or the federal
    government who is carrying out official duties while in California,
    any person summoned by any such officer to assist in making arrests
    or preserving the peace while he is actually engaged in assisting
    such officer, a member of the military forces of this state or the
    United States engaged in the performance of his duties, or a person
    holding a valid license to carry the firearm pursuant to Article 3
    (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2 of Part 4,
    who brings a loaded firearm into, or possesses a loaded firearm
    within, the State Capitol
    , any legislative office, any office of the
    Governor or other constitutional officer, or any hearing room in
    which any committee of the Senate or Assembly is conducting a
    hearing, or upon the grounds of the State Capitol, which is bounded
    by 10th, L, 15th, and N Streets in the City of Sacramento, shall be
    punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a period of not more
    than one year, a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000),
    or both such imprisonment and fine, or by imprisonment in the state
    prison.
    And then this part which covers the weird ammo bit:
    171e. A firearm shall be deemed loaded for the purposes of Sections
    171c and 171d whenever both the firearm and unexpended ammunition
    capable of being discharged from such firearm are in the immediate
    possession of the same person.

    In order to determine whether or not a firearm is loaded for the
    purpose of enforcing Section 171c or 171d, peace officers are
    authorized to examine any firearm carried by anyone on his person or
    in a vehicle while in any place or on the grounds of any place in or
    on which the possession of a loaded firearm is prohibited by Section
    171c or 171d. Refusal to allow a peace officer to inspect a firearm
    pursuant to the provisions of this section constitutes probable cause
    for arrest for violation of Section 171c or 171d.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    It's possible that I'm wrong, but here is the penal code I was basing that question on:



    And then this part which covers the weird ammo bit:
    I think C3 is correct, I do seem to remember reading somewhere that the capital grounds is a State Park. Which of course have much tougher gun regs then the sections you and I referenced. I can't find the code though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen View Post
    This kind of expected hysteria is part of the problem here.

    I've not once experienced such hysteria and I've open carried in all sorts of settings with children of all ages and their families.

    In fact, the young children are the most accepting and inquisitive, leading to many positive conversations with their parents about open carry.

    If we continue to spread this myth that people will freak out, people will keep believing it is true, when it is just a myth.


    I couldn't agree with Harley more. And in addition to the very good points he makes, I will add this: Some may ask "why would you need a gun at a preschool?"
    Remember, you don't get to choose where or when you or others around you will be assaulted.

    What if some disgruntled parent in a child custody battle chose the daycare center as the place he or she would "settle the score" with their (ex) significant other??

    It's better to have a gun and not need it, then to need a gun and not have it.

    My wife still has problems with me carrying at certain times or places. She didn't want me to carry one day when we took our son to the BMX bike track because "there's a bunch of kids here". So what? Are BMX bike tracks magically immune from violence? Are there only certain places where violent crime takes place? NO! It happens anywhere and everywhere without warning.

    She won the argument that day (I left the gun in the truck but kept my magazine holder and holster on), but I make sure to point out every time there is a news report
    about violence "where there's a bunch of kids" , and rub it in a bit.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones View Post
    I think C3 is correct, I do seem to remember reading somewhere that the capital grounds is a State Park. Which of course have much tougher gun regs then the sections you and I referenced. I can't find the code though...
    Yeah, apparently it is in a state park. Drats, minus one for me. I'll update.

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    Red face

    Does this mean I get a 100% on the quiz?
    New to OPEN CARRY in California? Click and read this first...

    NA MALE SUBJ ON FOOT, LS NB 3 AGO HAD A HOLSTERED HANDGUN ON HIS RIGHT HIP. WAS NOT BRANDISHING THE WEAPON, BUT RP FOUND SUSPICIOUS.
    CL SUBJ IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW


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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    Does this mean I get a 100% on the quiz?
    Yes yes, of course you did. Everybody knows you are the Californian law master. You're so good apparently, that you even refute laws that the penal code cites.

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    Fun quiz! #10 however should be the other answer IF it is concealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen View Post
    This kind of expected hysteria is part of the problem here.

    I've not once experienced such hysteria and I've open carried in all sorts of settings with children of all ages and their families.

    In fact, the young children are the most accepting and inquisitive, leading to many positive conversations with their parents about open carry.

    If we continue to spread this myth that people will freak out, people will keep believing it is true, when it is just a myth.
    I agree with you. I was just pointing out that there are a lot of stupid people out there who know nothing about our freedoms & would make a fuss about a right they never took the time to inform themselves about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Fun quiz! #10 however should be the other answer IF it is concealed.
    Sorry, number 10? I think they're set to randomly order themselves.

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    I didnt put on the dash board or on the seat. Imagine an accident. Your gun goes under the seat and your knocked out. You wake up in the hospital cuffed to the bed because your gun was found under the seat (concealed). I also put university. With permission from the university you can carry there. How many preschools are out of 1000' from a school? None around me.
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    What a fun quiz! I had to think about some of them.

    I was at the April 2A rally and the CHP swat e-checked us. The CHP said I could UOC on and around the Capitol without ammo. I did with my wife and the CHP as they walked other rallies. I'm glad that LE are clueless about the law.

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    Generally admitting that you've committed a crime on the internet is a bad idea. Perhaps an edit is in order?

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    Well I don't live in California, I got 50 out of 100, so not ready. That's OK I would never visit California and I will not buy things from businesses in that state until it changes it's gun laws or goes bankrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix David View Post
    Well I don't live in California, I got 50 out of 100, so not ready. That's OK I would never visit California and I will not buy things from businesses in that state until it changes it's gun laws or goes bankrupt.
    Gee thanks so much for telling all of us here in California to **** off and die...much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtoe416 View Post
    Sorry, number 10? I think they're set to randomly order themselves.
    The question about replica carry. Its only a crime if openly carried. Cc is gtg but with a big why bother.

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