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UW Campus question

BROKENSPROKET

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I believe that anyone that can legally OC can do so on UW Campus property, but not within any of the buildings, unless you are a student or employee.

Am I correct?
 

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UWS 18.10(3) (UW Administrative Code)

(3) DANGEROUS WEAPONS. (a) No person may carry, possess
or use any dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the chief
administrative officer or for law enforcement purposes.
(b) No person may display or portray as real any object that
resembles a dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the
chief administrative officer.
(c) Dangerous weapons in violation of this subsection may be
confiscated and removed from university lands by police.
(d) In this subsection, the term “dangerous weapon” has the
meaning specified in s. 939.22 (10), Stats.

and the penalty:

UWS 18.13 Penalties. Unless otherwise specified, the
penalty for violating any of the rules in ss. UWS 18.06 to 18.12
shall be a forfeiture of not more than $500, as provided in s. 36.11
(1) (c), Stats.
 

BROKENSPROKET

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(3) DANGEROUS WEAPONS. (a) No person may carry, possess
or use any dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the chief
administrative officer or for law enforcement purposes.
(b) No person may display or portray as real any object that
resembles a dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the
chief administrative officer.
(c) Dangerous weapons in violation of this subsection may be
confiscated and removed from university lands by police.
(d) In this subsection, the term “dangerous weapon” has the
meaning specified in s. 939.22 (10), Stats.

and the penalty:

UWS 18.13 Penalties. Unless otherwise specified, the
penalty for violating any of the rules in ss. UWS 18.06 to 18.12
shall be a forfeiture of not more than $500, as provided in s. 36.11
(1) (c), Stats.

So, all this time I have been hearing of the five(5) places we cannot carry and all this time it has been six(6).

Lucy(Hubert), you got some splaining to do.

Edited to add: Wait, UW System Chapter is not State Statute, is it? IF not, then this would be unenforceable for anyone who is not a student or employee. Huh, I was correct.
 
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Shotgun

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Edited to add: Wait, UW System Chapter is not State Statute, is it? IF not, then this would be unenforceable for anyone who is not a student or employee. Huh, I was correct.

Unfortunately I don't think it works that way; for example the majority of DNR hunting and fishing regulations are only codified in the Administrative Code, however bag limits are not enforceable only against DNR employees.

One reason that I don't like UWS 18.10(3) is because it sets restrictions that exceed any written in state law, but unfortunately only local municipalities are preempted, not state agencies such as the UW System. It might be challenged on constitutional grounds, but then every gun law might be subject to challenge on constitutional grounds.
 

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Unfortunately I don't think it works that way; for example the majority of DNR hunting and fishing regulations are only codified in the Administrative Code, however bag limits are not enforceable only against DNR employees.

One reason that I don't like UWS 18.10(3) is because it sets restrictions that exceed any written in state law, but unfortunately only local municipalities are preempted, not state agencies such as the UW System. It might be challenged on constitutional grounds, but then every gun law might be subject to challenge on constitutional grounds.

Well, we better let Hubert know he has been lying to everyone.
 

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UW Systems

I believe that anyone that can legally OC can do so on UW Campus property, but not within any of the buildings, unless you are a student or employee.

Am I correct?

I spoke with a couple of UW-L "cops" while they were on the firing range about month ago on this very subject. They at first said "NO" it's not legal. Then when I posed the state laws to them, they said that if they actually caught up to me they would escort me off campus and tell me to not come back.

They also told me that any transport or carry of firearms on UWL property would have to be OK'd by the chief and that he wasn't likely to OK that.
 

J.Gleason

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I think you could phrase that differently without sounding like a dick.

This is a learning process for everyone. Each and every day we encounter new territory that needs to be mapped out.

Now isn't that the pot calling the kettle black!

Oh thats right, he has table time.
 
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J.Gleason

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Hey Broken Sproket, if you want to get some attention on campus, use a van and hang the WCI banners on the side of it and park along the curb near the campus and hand out fliers and pamphlets. those can also be placed in the student lounges as well.
 

J.Gleason

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I spoke with a couple of UW-L "cops" while they were on the firing range about month ago on this very subject. They at first said "NO" it's not legal. Then when I posed the state laws to them, they said that if they actually caught up to me they would escort me off campus and tell me to not come back.

They also told me that any transport or carry of firearms on UWL property would have to be OK'd by the chief and that he wasn't likely to OK that.

Hmmm, who has more power? The chief or the student body? This is an interesting concept.Maybe we need to have organizations right there on campus. Some student protests would bring a tremendous amount of attention. After all College is all about the money.
 
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Hmmm, who has more power? The chief or the student body? This is an interesting concept.Maybe we need to have organizations right there on campus. Some student protests would bring a tremendous amount of attention. After all College is all about the money.

Good idea, as is the one you suggested just before that!
 

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The idea of publicizing on campus is a good one.

You all might be surprised at the level of interest in firearms and recreational shooting there is among students. At UWL I periodically meet groups of students at the range to safely introduce them to handguns. There are always more students interested than I can accommodate. The faculty and staff (and some students) are where you will find almost all of the vitriolic anti-gun crap on campus.
 

xenophon

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(3) DANGEROUS WEAPONS. (a) No person may carry, possess
or use any dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the chief
administrative officer or for law enforcement purposes.
(b) No person may display or portray as real any object that
resembles a dangerous weapon on university lands or in university
buildings or facilities, except with the written approval of the
chief administrative officer.
(c) Dangerous weapons in violation of this subsection may be
confiscated and removed from university lands by police.
(d) In this subsection, the term “dangerous weapon” has the
meaning specified in s. 939.22 (10), Stats.

and the penalty:

UWS 18.13 Penalties. Unless otherwise specified, the
penalty for violating any of the rules in ss. UWS 18.06 to 18.12
shall be a forfeiture of not more than $500, as provided in s. 36.11
(1) (c), Stats.

Sounds more stringent than the state law. State law just deals with concealed carry, and this is dealing with open carry?

I'd definitely like some clarification on this. UWM isn't too far away from me.
 

paul@paul-fisher.com

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Sounds more stringent than the state law. State law just deals with concealed carry, and this is dealing with open carry?

I'd definitely like some clarification on this. UWM isn't too far away from me.

I believe the problem with UWM is that there are many public schools around there and UWM campus isn't private property, as far as I know, so, the 1000' rule would be a pain in the rear.
 
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