rj3663
Regular Member
Ok pilgrim...
Ok pilgrim...
You became apart of this movement as soon as you became a participating member of OCDO, whether you or we like it. If you don't want to be a part of the movement delete your account, you can still come here for info, heck even still OC, just don't mention us to anyone, we don't need your "publicity"! People wonder why some of the good members are retiring, or just don't OC anymore, this is why.
Does opencarry.org have a mission statement somewhere that describes this as a movement. You seem to have a real bent to set me straight and it's just not going your way.
Yes, opencarry.org explicitly describes open carry as a movement:
"OpenCarry.org has grown to become the social networking portal for the open carry movement." [Emphasis added.]
-- <http://www.opencarry.org/press.html>
What serves as opencarry.org's "mission statement" is at the top of their home page:
"A pro-gun Internet community focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life."
-- <http://www.opencarry.org/>
Therefore, it should be no surprise that, here on this website:
1) Folks refer to open carry and think of it as a "movement" which all lawful OC'ers including you, whether they like it or not, affect in the court of public opinion.
2) You are being questioned about your carrying in your back pocket and there being much discussion, which you are invited to join, as to if you are "properly holstered".
I didn't ask for a "Forum nazi" to tell me to remove my account! I won't be censored, this is America. I don't need your permission to visit this site "Or even OC". I will not be told whom to mention and whom to not mention, this is America and thats covered by my constituional rights as well. And who appointed you to judge good members from bad. The coffee/lunch/dinner invitation still stands and no, it's not a threat. I'm a good father a good husband a good worker and a good friend to those that choose to allow me into their lives. You could really be missing out on an opportunity here, don't behave this way.
You are pretty hard to ignore so I'll close with one more invitation. Read into it what you will. PM me for directions and we'll work this out in person.
Time for some light heartedness... So I take I-96 West till I get to that Resturant/Country Store/Gas Station in one, awesome food, little pricy, store is small, but good. I usally stop their on my way to Muskegon. They have a little "out house" that is mini version of the building right next to the freeway, right?You are pretty hard to ignore so I'll close with one more invitation. Read into it what you will. PM me for directions and we'll work this out in person.
yes the title caught everyone's attention.
Everyone stated their objections to his carry style and made their opinions known.
Ummm, I did no such thing. In fact, I even admitted carrying in such a way that others here may easily find issue. I feel that as long as he knows the possible outcomes of his choices, he is adult enough to decide those sorts of issues for himself.
This forum is not a licensing bureau endowed with the power to pull such license of an OCer who violates what some here may believe are the proper methods of carry. Although I believe that, as a group, anytime that there is some sort of meeting that appears to "unofficially" represent OC to a larger audience certain expectations may be asked of those who attend, how a person carries in their day-today activities is his or her business alone. Not every OCer is a member of any group such as this so to assume that an OCer out in the public somehow is representative of OCDO or MOC is akin to thinking that every person who drives a car contrary to what we deem proper somehow represents AAA. ( Just my 2 cents)
Well, I read the rules and sure enough there is no statement that calls this a movement and furthermore it states that you will police your own posts. Not "police OUR own" The coffee is on and I'm picking up a black angus quarter this weekend. The lunches and dinners are going to be pretty good till the steaks run out.
yes the title caught everyone's attention.
Everyone stated their objections to his carry style and made their opinions known. Now it's starting to become a brow beating session. That's what women do, nag nag nag. Let's quick the brow beating and agree to disagree. Some times this brow beating gets old.
Some do call it a movement and I do because only a few years ago no one tried to open carry, well almost no one. I was called an idiot, a maverick, suicidal, and was brow beat by some of the same people today that are suddenly pro open carry. So it is in some ways a movement because it has woken people up to act on rights they either didn't know they had, or were too afraid to use. I understand it isn't any fun to be arrested on a CCW charge and sit in jail till someone decided to bail you out. Been there done that. And the State trooper actually apologized to me, and that alone gave me needed reinforcement. But unless we start acting like grown men here and quit all this little old lady style nagging no one will take us seriously. It is a right! if he carries in a style you don't like then carry the way "you" like. But in the name of all that's good, the nagging has to stop.
Once again I most likely pissed a few or many off here and frankly I do not care. And most likely those who agree with me will stand quiet and say nothing except maybe an private email. So be it.
I suggest some watch some John Wayne movies or something to get a clue how men act. The bitchy brow beating stuff is obnoxious.
RJ3663 welcome to open carry
As has been pointed out several times, we are just trying to help you. You're being a jerk. If you OC, (gun visible, whether it meets the legal definition or not) you are part of the movement whether you know it or not, and whether you or we, like it or not.
No one said that you were in a PFZ, but you could find yourself in one very easily. With the way you take advice, my bet is, that it would be a hospital.
I am just in love with the Idea of beerme and stainless trying to give advice on how to carry!!!