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    Vacationing in CA for the holidays. Is it worth learning the codes to OC for 2 weeks?

    I'm in TX and I'm going to visit some family over the upcoming xmas break. I love CC here in TX and I carry everywhere that is not expressly prohibited.

    I know there are "considerably" more restrictions on handguns in CA. Is it possible get ready to do OC safely and legally in a few months time???

    I know it must be unloaded with ammo on other hip. and no guns w/in 1000 ft of schools. anything else or should I just leave it in my truck locked up the whole time??

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    It is always worth it to exercise your god given rights. However, with all the hoops you have to jump through and the possibility of your vacation being ruined by possible legal issues I would not suggest UOCing on your own. Here in the PRK we have LEOs who will come on up on you with guns drawn and lecture you like you're a child. My suggestion is to just keep it locked up in your car in a small gun safe with the combo off by one number (I always have my firearm with me in this manner where ever i go). Or you can even carry unloaded and locked in a container on your person.

    If you let us know when and where you’re going to be here, I'm sure someone would be willing to UOC with you and show you what a pain it is to UOC in CA.

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    +1 I agree with chewy.

    and also agree that if you let us know where you will be, there is someone here that is willing to help teach how to safely OC in CA.

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    as the saying goes...

    Come on vacation, leave on probation!

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    Man, You guys have me scared. Is it that bad? If I did want to, whats the miniumn I need to do. Register with CA? Obviously know the school zones. Anything else. Thanks for the info guys. Still trying to decide if it's even worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jecsd1 View Post
    Man, You guys have me scared. Is it that bad? If I did want to, whats the miniumn I need to do. Register with CA? Obviously know the school zones. Anything else. Thanks for the info guys. Still trying to decide if it's even worth it
    It ain't easy packin in Calif.
    If you're driving, unload it and lock it up. You might pass through a magic GFSZ. That's where criminals don't carry, cuz it's against the law. Your lockable glove box of center console are not considered a locked container.
    If you're going to carry, unload it and keep the mag in sight.
    Don't carry in Gov buildings, post office included.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    +1 for recommending that you do not OC while here on vacation.

    There are too many opportunities for something to go sideways and completely destroy your vacation. I would recommend you keep a firearm unloaded and in a locked container.

    Please also keep in mind that it is illegal (possible felony) to import into California a magazine which holds more then 10 rounds. If you posessed the 'large capacity magazine' within the state at any time before 1/1/00 then you may legally bring them into the state.

    12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
    is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
    or in the state prison:
    ...
    (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be
    manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or
    exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity
    magazine.
    ...
    (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
    ...
    (23) The importation of a large-capacity magazine by a person who
    lawfully possessed the large-capacity magazine in the state prior to
    January 1, 2000, lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning
    to the state with the large-capacity magazine previously lawfully
    possessed in the state.

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    Thanks for the info. I think you're right.

    I'll bring the .40 cal subcompact with 9 round magazines and just lock it up in the car. I WILL be bringing the OWB holster though, as we will be spending a day in AZ where I'll have my rights back again. Thanks!

    It's a shame the way CA thinks it can rewrite the COTUS as it sees fit.

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    If you want to I'm sure someone would be able to UOC with you if you would like to UOC in the PRK.

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    please, pm me and let me know the area of CA you will be in. I am sure that I can find someone who is exp, and willing to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jecsd1 View Post
    Man, You guys have me scared. Is it that bad? If I did want to, whats the miniumn I need to do. Register with CA? Obviously know the school zones. Anything else. Thanks for the info guys. Still trying to decide if it's even worth it
    As much as I hate to say it, UOC'ing here could completely ruin your vacation and much more. You could learn the PC's and be legal, but that doesn't mean you won't be harassed and/or detained, arrested, and eventually released. So unless you want a holiday with a total rights violation experience, you may want to refrain from any thoughts of liberty, the constitution, or freedom. We don't say "deep behind enemy lines in the People's Republik of Kalifornia" for nothing. Hell, if I were you I'd catch a cold and stay in TX and video skype or something.

    Besides, knowing the school zones isn't enough, you have to know their property boundaries, because CA's PC 626.9 is based on property, not the school building itself. And if you're in any sort of populated urban area, then its entirely likely the vast majority of the town/city is a Victim Disarmament Zone anyway. And good luck with that because private schools abound and aren't listed on maps.

    Now having said all that, if you will be out in the boonies, well that's a whole different deal. LOC is legal in unincorporated parts of a county that don't have shooting restrictions. So you might want to let us know which county you'll be in.

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    If you are in an unincorporated terretory, you can open carry loaded except where the county has banned shooting.

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    no such luck. I'll be in san diego, LA, and orange county. I think I'll leave it in the car

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    Well I am in San Diego and can so you some pretty cool places while UOCing if you would like.

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