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    Channel 3000 (Wisconsin) - Culver restaurant management declines to ban open carry!

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    Open Carry Debate Could Affect Businesses
    Culver's Decides Not To Create New Policy On Openly Carrying Handguns
    Posted: 6:07 pm CDT September 21, 2010
    Updated: 6:12 pm CDT September 21, 2010

    Text SizeAAAMADISON, Wis. -- The debate over openly carrying handguns could affect businesses, after two men wearing holstered firearms refused to show police identification at a Culver's restaurant on Madison's East Side Saturday night and were cited for obstruction.

    Culver's Corp. was considering the need for a policy addressing the issue after a concerned customer called police. An executive at Culver's Corp. said Tuesday afternoon the restaurant will not create a new policy over the incident.

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    Hanson said that just as it is legal for someone to openly carry a handgun in Wisconsin, it's also legal for a business to refuse service to a customer carrying a weapon.

    However, Hanson said that could come with consequences.

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    If there is a debate to be had on the law itself, the Wisconsin Restaurant Association said that should happen in the Legislature and not fall on individual businesses.

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    +1 for the good guys!

    I will be writing corporate and thanking them for staying neutral.

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    I have eaten at a lot of Culvers over the years including this one in Madison, If Craig has to consult with his lawyers before he can say yeah or nay then he doesn't need my business anymore. Let him keep his ninny, 'bad guns are scary lets call the police,' customers and see how well he does. To bad too because I like him and I like their service.

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    A+ for Culvers. Looks like it is time to take the family out for a burger.

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    More burgers in my future. Be sure to thank them everyone.
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    Good

    Smart Business decision. All they had to do was look at Starbucks increased profits since their "controversy".
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    So, when's the next Madison get together to celebrate Culvers' decision? I want to eat there more often now.

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    Guess that WAVE members (all six of them) will uncomfortable in Culvers as they are at Starbucks. <grin>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Grump View Post
    I have eaten at a lot of Culvers over the years including this one in Madison, If Craig has to consult with his lawyers before he can say yeah or nay then he doesn't need my business anymore. Let him keep his ninny, 'bad guns are scary lets call the police,' customers and see how well he does. To bad too because I like him and I like their service.
    In Craigs defense, I didn't see anything about the question being allow OC or not. It was whether or not to even have a policy about it. Someone correct me if I'm missing something.

    In any case, he's got a corporation to run and with that comes the need for good PR. Maybe he only said he talked with their lawyers/reviewed their policy to make people feel at ease. Who knows? What's important is the outcome in this case.

    I'm glad it turned out this way. Should invit him to the baraboo picnic! LOL.
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    Cool Coffee and Burgers

    I have never been to a Culvers. And I have never been to a Starbucks. Onalaska has both and they are reasonably close together. Think I'm overdue for a coffee and a burger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    I have never been to a Culvers. And I have never been to a Starbucks. Onalaska has both and they are reasonably close together. Think I'm overdue for a coffee and a burger.
    I like Culvers, even more now . I use to hate Starbucks coffee but my g/f has been ordering me some complicated sounding concoctions and It's really growing on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyGuy View Post
    So, when's the next Madison get together to celebrate Culvers' decision? I want to eat there more often now.
    Sept. 25. I will be heading down to Madison after the OC Picnic in Baraboo. I know that others are intersted in caravaning down as well.

    I will be in Madison Oct. 1-3. If anyone is interested.

    I think an applause is needed for the Wisconsin Restaraunt Association as well.

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    I'm glad to see they made the right call. Even better is they made this decision quickly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    Sept. 25. I will be heading down to Madison after the OC Picnic in Baraboo.
    What time are you thinking? I can't make it on the 1st - 3rd as that is my Appleseed shoot.
    Last edited by TyGuy; 09-22-2010 at 10:14 AM.

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    Sterile carry - don't carry ID unless you have to

    If folks really think they are going to be detained by police to see ID, then if practicable it might be best to avoid carrying ID that day - a person who has no ID and is searched for it, somthing they do not need ot have, is a more appealing plaintiff I think for a follow on civil action. You look more reasonable - "Sorry, I have no ID to show you."

    Americans are not required to have or carry ID, nor can states make them. See Kolender v. Lawson summary at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolender_v._Lawson

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    +1 for the good guys!

    I will be writing corporate and thanking them for staying neutral.
    ditto. kudos to Culvers!

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    Just sent my letter thanking Culvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyGuy View Post
    Just sent my letter thanking Culvers.
    Me too! Smart business decision.

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    Eating Culver's right now!

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    Thanks Culver's. I love your tastey burgers. And milk shakes.

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    Culvers in Baraboo

    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    Sept. 25. I will be heading down to Madison after the OC Picnic in Baraboo. I know that others are intersted in caravaning down as well.

    I will be in Madison Oct. 1-3. If anyone is interested.

    I think an applause is needed for the Wisconsin Restaraunt Association as well.
    Just don't stop at the Culvers in Baraboo armed on 33, they are within 1000 feet of a school.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyridn View Post
    Just don't stop at the Culvers in Baraboo armed on 33, they are within 1000 feet of a school.

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    Since Culvers is private property the GFSZ does not come into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny amish View Post
    Since Culvers is private property the GFSZ does not come into play.
    Yup, eat away at any Culvers...that is unless yours in owned by the municipality...

    Then stop by Starbucks for a coffee chaser.

    Or, have coffee for breakfast and butter burgers for lunch and dinner.
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