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    News-Record story, 2 suspects shot dead by Pizza Hut worker

    This could have gone very bad for the workers if he had not had a gun. 2 robbery suspects shot dead by Pizza Hut worker in Charlotte
    Tuesday, September 28, 2010
    (Updated 8:36 am)
    By The Associated Press

    CHARLOTTE (AP) — Police say a North Carolina pizza restaurant worker being herded toward a cooler pulled a gun and shot and killed two robbers.

    Multiple media outlets reported Tuesday that police were searching for a third man who got away from an east Charlotte Pizza Hut restaurant.

    Authorities say the robbers burst through the restaurant's front door late Monday as two workers were cleaning up in the back.

    Investigators say the suspects ordered the two employees into a walk-in cooler, then started beating one of the men. The other employee pulled a handgun and opened fire.

    Police say they found two handguns near the dead suspects. Their names have not been released.

    No charges have been filed against the armed employee.

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    AWESOME...love a good story like this where the good guys win. Sad the two employees had to go through this, but glad the criminals will no longer waste our oxygen supply

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    NOW .. I would like to see Pizza Hut do the right thing and issue a press release stating that the employee was in the right to protect himself and other employees.


    Good guys- 1
    Bad guys- 6 feet under
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    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    No chance. Pizza Hut has a no firearms policy that extends to all its employees. This boy will need to fire up his resume. Corporate America
    is a blind *****.
    Last edited by .40 Cal; 09-28-2010 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .40 Cal View Post
    No chance. Pizza Hut has a no firearms policy that extends to all its employees. This boy will need to fire up his resume. Corporate America
    is a blind *****.
    I wonder how those execs would feel being marched at gunpoint to a almost certain horrible violent death. They should really handle this differently considering the mental state of alot of people and just do what is friggen right.
    - Knowledge is power and there IS strength in numbers -

    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
    - Thomas Jefferson

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    My local Pizza Hut sell beer... Im glad the good guy won this one but he "was" breaking the law.. I hope he stays out of trouble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by muccione View Post
    My local Pizza Hut sell beer... Im glad the good guy won this one but he "was" breaking the law.. I hope he stays out of trouble...
    Not sure about NC law. but here in MN we are allowed to carry in establishments that serve or sell alcohol.
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    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    In NC we are not permitted to carry as a customer in an establishment that provides alcohol for sale and consumption but employee's/ owners etc are allowed to carry (with permission of the management). As was said above, it is my understanding that in the case of the company involved in this case, corporate policy is to prohibit any weapons in the possession of employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzsaw View Post
    In NC we are not permitted to carry as a customer in an establishment that provides alcohol for sale and consumption but employee's/ owners etc are allowed to carry (with permission of the management). As was said above, it is my understanding that in the case of the company involved in this case, corporate policy is to prohibit any weapons in the possession of employees.
    This is only conjecture, but I would think the worst thing that could happen to an employee breaking the firearms policy would be termination of employment. I doubt he or she could be successfully prosecuted for trespassing like a customer could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith45acp View Post
    This is only conjecture, but I would think the worst thing that could happen to an employee breaking the firearms policy would be termination of employment. I doubt he or she could be successfully prosecuted for trespassing like a customer could be.
    So would I, but I seem to recall a case recently in which a man who was concealing illegally used his weapon to kill a man holding up a pharmacy. I don't recall the specific location of this case, but he was charged with illegal concealment.

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    What needs to happen is for us to get the contact information of pizza hut and email the CEO this story and how their policy would have condemned their employees to possible death.

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    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...n-robbery.html


    A spokesman for Dallas-based Pizza Hut could not be reached, but according to numerous published reports, Pizza Hut’s corporate policy forbids employees from having firearms while on the job.


    A Pizza Hut employee in Columbia resigned last year after police said he shot and killed a robbery suspect. The employee resigned, according to Pizza Hut spokesman Chris Fuller, because of the company’s policy forbidding employees from carrying firearms.


    In one well-publicized May 2004 case, a Pizza Hut employee in Carmel, Ind., was fired after he shot and killed a would-be robber. And in 2008, a Pizza Hut worker in Des Moines, Iowa, lost his job after shooting and wounding a robbery suspect. Both of those Pizza Hut employees were delivery drivers.



    Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...#ixzz10qlAvfX9

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    All in all, I'll trade a charge for an illegal carry for being beat up and possibly killed any day.

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    No luck on finding any emails for corporate just a form to fill out on their website. I know their a subsidary of YUM! brands...

    I filled out the form though...

    As a Toys R Us shopper and law abiding firearms carrier, I was very disappointed to see that your stores do not allow your employees to carry a firearm in law abiding states. I'm sure you are aware of the recent incident with one of your stores in Charolotte where an employee protected another citizen and his own life with a firearm. There is no way that not allowing employees to ability to exercise their right they are any safer. Until this policy is remanded i will no longer patronize any of your brands and will go to great lengths to encourages others as well. I am a member of several online communities all with similar view points. I would like the opportunity to discuss this with you further then the 1,000 character limit in this form letter. Please feel free to contact me at the email address listed below.

    Sincerely,
    ME

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    Here is a news feed video on it. The Sheriff talking about folks carrying.
    http://www.wsoctv.com/video/25199383/index.html

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    Thank god that this employee ignored Pizza Hut's stupid policy, and paid no attention to NCs outdated, racist, Jim Crow "Restaurant Ban" statute. Had he been following the policies of his employer and the laws of the State of NC, this story would likely had a MUCH different ending, with a LOT of innocent people paying the ultimate price.

    As it is, two violent, armed felons have gone on to their Just Reward, and a third will think long and hard before he holds up another pizza joint...

    But I imagine it's pretty much a sure thing that this employee will be rewarded for his bravery and personal responsibility by being fired by Pizza Hut, and it wouldn't be surprising if Mecklenberg County's DA charges him with "illegally carrying in an establishment that sells alcohol for consumption on premise."

    In today's society, no good deed goes unpunished...

    But at least this CCer lived to tell the tale, and the guy is a HERO in my eyes.

    To my way of thinking, he deserves a freaking medal...
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    Is it just me or does it seem that Pizza Hut is a high crime target. They really need to consider changing their no weapons policy.

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    The sheriff seem's to be pro gun & carry and that's fine and well, but he took an oath to preserve and to protect the Constitution. Has he read it? If he has I like for him to point out the section in the " BILL OF RIGHT'S " or in the 2'nd Amendment, specifically the " RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS " were it say's carrying a gun is a privileged. What an idiotic thing to say. I hope he doesn't really feel that way and he just misspoke at the spur of the moment. All in all though this is why people dont get mad when there RIGHT'S are taken away, cause there trained to think the government give's them privileges, not they they already have these right's. Just remember this 1 thing please. The 1 and only LORD GOD gave you all your rights and every thing you have as a human being not the government, the government can't give you anything you do not already own. The government will take away your rights and whats yours, with a smile and try to make you feel good about giving it to them. Our founding fathers would cry, then kill all of the politician's that are in "power" now for treason for what they are doing to the county they fought and died for. GOD BLESS US ALL!

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    Not to get into an argument, just trying to point out that I believe when the Sheriff was talking about the privilege, the context of the comment was around concealed carry permits, which are classified as a privilege (rightly or wrongly) currently by the laws permitting them since the NC Constitution does not grant that right

    "Sec. 30. Militia and the right to bear arms.
    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice."

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMMANDER1911 View Post
    Is it just me or does it seem that Pizza Hut is a high crime target. They really need to consider changing their no weapons policy.
    Pizza huts and Walmarts are both high on the ne'er-do-well list of fishing ponds.

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    redfive48, This is what I read when it comes to my individual right's. Amendment II of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says " A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the ( RIGHT ) of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." And if that's not good enough, the Two Supreme Court rulings, District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. Chicago (2010), clarified the meaning of the Second Amendment. In Heller, the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's ( RIGHT ) to possess a firearm (unconnected to service in a militia) and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Additionally, the Court enumerated several longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession that it found were consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald, the Court determined that the Second Amendment limits state and local governmental authority to the same extent that it limits federal authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carracer View Post
    Pizza huts and Walmarts are both high on the ne'er-do-well list of fishing ponds.
    The only upside to this is that crime becomes so prevalent around these locations that people begin to pay attention. Case in point: my wife was mugged at Wal-Mart last January. She now carries her S&W on her instead of in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .40 Cal View Post
    The only upside to this is that crime becomes so prevalent around these locations that people begin to pay attention. Case in point: my wife was mugged at Wal-Mart last January. She now carries her S&W on her instead of in the car.
    I hope the damage from her mugging was minimal and am glad to hear she is carrying now. Don't know where you live but if it is a small town like the one we live in, just the reputation will help. My wife has had her CCP for 15 years and carried years before that, and anyone who knows her or has met her knows she carries and is d*mn good with it and that alone can prevent alot. Its sad that it has to be that way, shame people can't just live their life not having to worry about being mugged or killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner View Post
    redfive48, This is what I read when it comes to my individual right's. Amendment II of the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA says " A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the ( RIGHT ) of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." And if that's not good enough, the Two Supreme Court rulings, District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. Chicago (2010), clarified the meaning of the Second Amendment. In Heller, the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's ( RIGHT ) to possess a firearm (unconnected to service in a militia) and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Additionally, the Court enumerated several longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession that it found were consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald, the Court determined that the Second Amendment limits state and local governmental authority to the same extent that it limits federal authority.
    All I was saying was the sheriff was talking in the context of concealed weapons permits when he mentioned privilege. Unfortunately, the NC state constitution makes concealed carry a crime (right removed) without the permit. I don't know the sheriff and his policies, only saw the news clip, and nothing from that hinted at the fact he was not upholding the constitution, but if you got that from the clip, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDFIVE48 View Post
    All I was saying was the sheriff was talking in the context of concealed weapons permits when he mentioned privilege. Unfortunately, the NC state constitution makes concealed carry a crime (right removed) without the permit. I don't know the sheriff and his policies, only saw the news clip, and nothing from that hinted at the fact he was not upholding the constitution, but if you got that from the clip, so be it.
    That's OK, I wasn't arguing. It's just when I hear any Govt. official tell me about my "privileges" it makes me crazy because they have to take away something from someone first before they can give it back to you. Just remember this 1 thing please. The 1 and only LORD GOD gave you all your rights and every thing you have as a human being not the government, the government can't give you anything you do not already own. The government will take away your rights and whats yours, with a smile and try to make you feel good about giving it to them. Our founding fathers would cry, then kill all of the politician's that are in "power" now for treason for what they are doing to the county they fought and died for. GOD BLESS US ALL!

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