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Brady: DC gun ownership in DC would endanger Congress

Daylen

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We are ALL civilians. It's not an epithet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian

A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces

Militia Act 1903 said:
Composition of militia, and classification as organized militia and reserve militia.
Be it enacted, &.c, That the militia shall consist of every ablebodied male citizen of the respective States, Territories, and District of Columbia, and every able-bodied male of foreign birth who has declared his intention to become a citizen, who is more than eighteen and less than forty-five years of age, and shall be divided into two classes- the organized militia, to be known as the National Guard of the State, Territory, or District of Columbia, or by such other designations as may be given them by the laws of the respective States or Territories, and the remainder to be known as the Reserve Militia.

Civilian seems to be a term for those countries with subjects. Here in the federation almost everyone is in the militia, therefore in the armed forces and not civilian; congress just removed to requirement to have a musket or rifle when things were reorganized.
 

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Back in the day of our Forefathers, men were men, I hope this still holds true today. I don't want my children to have to fight a tyrannical government that we failed to stop.
 

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They'd be right if....

if congress allowed itself too far off the path of liberty, they would have something to fear from the populace, that's part of the FF original intent.

As for New England.....
While we may have lost much of the "Sam Adams" spirit in the "Commonwealth", Don't be so quick to count out the rest of the group. Don't forget these are the descendants of the original Tea Party hosts. While sure to lose the major cities by sheer force of number vs. the low population, Yammamoto was right the cost inflicted by every Fisherman, farmer and shopkeeper firing from behind every rock and tree would be high. Remember what happened to the rest of that British regiment when they tried to get back to Boston after Lexington and Concord.
 

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if congress allowed itself too far off the path of liberty, they would have something to fear from the populace, that's part of the FF original intent.

As for New England.....
While we may have lost much of the "Sam Adams" spirit in the "Commonwealth", Don't be so quick to count out the rest of the group. Don't forget these are the descendants of the original Tea Party hosts. While sure to lose the major cities by sheer force of number vs. the low population, Yammamoto was right the cost inflicted by every Fisherman, farmer and shopkeeper firing from behind every rock and tree would be high. Remember what happened to the rest of that British regiment when they tried to get back to Boston after Lexington and Concord.

They got drunk, lost their way and were abducted by Extraterrestrials?
 

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Isoroku Yamamoto, Fleet Admiral Imperial Japanese Navy

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

Even without a large standiing army before WW2, the Empire of Japan did not dare attack us directly on the mainland. Now a days, who knows what would happen. Most of the west coast and parts of the east coast are mostly unarmed. A million man strong army who lands anywhere in California will have little resistance.

Things would change once they got to UT, AZ, NV or CO. If we lose Kalifornia...acceptable casualties....
 

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if congress allowed itself too far off the path of liberty, they would have something to fear from the populace, that's part of the FF original intent.

As for New England.....
While we may have lost much of the "Sam Adams" spirit in the "Commonwealth", Don't be so quick to count out the rest of the group. Don't forget these are the descendants of the original Tea Party hosts. While sure to lose the major cities by sheer force of number vs. the low population, Yammamoto was right the cost inflicted by every Fisherman, farmer and shopkeeper firing from behind every rock and tree would be high. Remember what happened to the rest of that British regiment when they tried to get back to Boston after Lexington and Concord.

Of course the Massholes would run to RI for protection, who would run to CT who would jump in the ocean because running to New Jorkcey would be a waste of time. But then there's New Hampshire....
 

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I don't think we'd get slaughtered, if we had proficient riflemen numbering in the tens of millions, all the militaries of the world couldn't invade us and win IMO. I've seen a lot of the world's militaries and they're a joke. I agree though that modern equipment is high maintenance and requires a lot of training and attention. We could not have all the planes, tanks, trucks, missle silos and equipment without a constant force doing upkeep, protection and maintenance, let alone the training.

That said if we had an infantry consisting of all males (eligible) between 18-42, all responsible for maintaining an MBR and issued gear. Who made it through basic training, and showed up for monthly drills. I think we would not have gone this far down the socialist hell hole.


Umm, they wouldn't invade if they knew we had millions of men on the ground with rifles. They would use their technology and just bomb the **** out of us.
 

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if 1/3 to half my income didn't go to some form of govt I could afford to arm my household with stingers or perhaps later a Javelin.
 

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if 1/3 to half my income didn't go to some form of govt I could afford to arm my household with stingers or perhaps later a Javelin.

Only 1/3???

Have you considered:

Federal income tax,
State income tax,
SS,
Medicare,
SS employer contribution,
Medicare employer contribution,
Local income taxes (for some locales),
Sales taxes,
Property taxes,
Tag taxes,
Excise taxes (check your utility bills, too),
Gas taxes?

My guess? More like 1/2.
 

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The fact that CHP holders are allowed into the General Assembly (the oldest legislative body in North America) in VA, as well as several other states' legislative bodies, makes it a hollow argument.
Texas put in an express lane at the Capital for people with CHLs to scoot through security. (Of course, the fact that they even added metal detectors in response to some guy shooting at the outside of the building is just stupid.)


Umm, they wouldn't invade if they knew we had millions of men on the ground with rifles. They would use their technology and just bomb the **** out of us.
No one ever took or held ground with an airplane. Bomb all you want, you haven't gotten anything until you put boots on the ground. And now those boots will have to deal with a very pissed off populace.
 

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Only 1/3???

Have you considered:

Federal income tax,
State income tax,
SS,
Medicare,
SS employer contribution,
Medicare employer contribution,
Local income taxes (for some locales),
Sales taxes,
Property taxes,
Tag taxes,
Excise taxes (check your utility bills, too),
Gas taxes?

My guess? More like 1/2.

I was trying to be optimistic... Why you gota burst my bubble like that and be right?
 

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No one ever took or held ground with an airplane. Bomb all you want, you haven't gotten anything until you put boots on the ground. And now those boots will have to deal with a very pissed off populace.

That was exactly how I was ready to respond. I'll expand on it by saying a "militia" would also have access to anti-air, anti-material weapons shortly after mobilization. If service was compulsory as it used to be, every eligible man in the US would be familiar with such equipment. Also, we could still have planes and tanks. The only thing different would be that almost every man (and woman I suppose) would have gone through Basic Combat Training, and maintained proficiency with a weapon system as well as familiarization training in new tactics and equipment.

I can't picture our modern population being forced to serve, and I think it was a mistake to change it.
 

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my solution is one must vote with their gun. On election day instead of having the little booths to caste a vote in have a shooting range with the target having your vote selections on it. You want to vote for candidate xyz, then ya better hit their box. Miss and hit the wrong box? well too bad that's how the vote got caste.
 

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my solution is one must vote with their gun. On election day instead of having the little booths to caste a vote in have a shooting range with the target having your vote selections on it. You want to vote for candidate xyz, then ya better hit their box. Miss and hit the wrong box? well too bad that's how the vote got caste.

giggle giggle

The anti gun hopolophobes wouldn't even be capable of voting, since they couldn't touch a gun, or they pick it up and drop it or something.

I think schools should teach gun ed. Also certain hetero men should stop acting like wussies, esp since many gay men have more balls than these wussies do. I'd also like to see more emphasis on gentlemanly behavior, and the whiny feminists need to shut the F up if a man holds the door for them. I am a "liberated" woman but I like a man who holds a door, or offers to help carry something heavy. Another thing that bugs me is hetero men wearing pink polo shirts- like WTH? Only gay men are allowed to do this! LOL
 

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You really think they'll get very far in Maine/New Hampshire/Vermont?

Not all of New England is bereft of a well-armed populace.

Actually they would, simply because the population of that area is so small.

Tough and trained can make up a lot for small size, but large is a quality of its' own.
 

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. Another thing that bugs me is hetero men wearing pink polo shirts- like WTH? Only gay men are allowed to do this! LOL

I resemble that remark. Actually had a pink shirt in the early 70's. Girls thought it was just fine. I never had any insecurity problems in that area.

I was going to buy a Wrangler Brush Popper shirt in Hot Pink, but they didn't have one in my size. Then my wife pitched a fit. Said she wouldn't be seen with me if I wore a shirt like that. So no Hot Pink shirt. LOL:cool:
 
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