WalMart Firearm policy?

[NewHampshireNative2005]

I was searching the web for information on WalMarts Firearm policy and came across this letter from WalMart stating their Firearm Policy for Concealed Carry as well as Open Carry.

"DATE: Friday, April 16,1999 2:13 PM

Subject: RE: Firearms

Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-Mart was founded by Sam Walton on three basic principles. Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.

The following is our policy......If a Wal-Mart customer has been awarded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property, With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-Mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than law enforcement personnel wearing or carrying a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.

We appreciate your concern and trust that this message has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.

Thank you,

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc."

As you can see the date of the replay is 1999 so I'm unsure if they still follow this policy or if it has been changed to meet the times. I searched more and have been unable to find anything saying it was changed. I will call WalMart and get a Up to date letter with contact information from Corp. So when we do this OC at WalMart we can show them the letter stating walmarts policy and who we spoke to.

[NewHampshireNative2005]

I called WalMart and talked with the customer care department and she searched and read me this.

"There is no policy against customers carrying their handgun in our stores as long as he/she is legally permitted by their state to carry the handgun.

As a private property owner, Walmart has the authority to ask customers to remove their handgun or leave the store on a case-by-case basis if customers or Walmart associates express concerns about the handgun.

Sincerely,
Walmart Customer Care"

She did say that it has to be some kind of store management that asks you to leave not just any employee can tell you to. As i have read most of the time they just ask you to remove your firearm and place it in your vehicle before returning into the store.

[flb_78]

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...walmart+letter

Walmart

Policy is to follow the law of the state the store located.
Customer Service1-800-Wal-Mart
(1-800-925-6278) Questions regarding a Wal-Mart Store issue
702 SW 8th Street
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Bentonville, Arkansas 72716-8611

Email contact link: http://walmartstores.com/contactus/feedback.aspx

Audio of Walmart Policy: Walmart_Firearm_Policy_Call.mp3

[LilRedMeanie]

I've open carried in the Walmart in West Lebanon and NEVER had a problem. Many of their employees have seen me do it, and even asked positive questions about it!

[Mrgrn]

i open carry in walmart in keene, claremont, tilton never had a problem

[Jay]

I have OC'd in West Lebanon more times than I can count. Claremont maybe three or four times I have never had a problem, and have actually bought ammunition on several occasions from West Leb. while OCing.

[nhsig220]

OC all the time in different Walmarts, without issue.

[aadvark]

Open Carried a Rifle at Wal-Mart in Georgia..., no problems.

[jhp]

Okay here's the problem I had tonight and I'm gonna look into Walmarts open carry policy and would appreciate any help. I live in Virginia which is a open carry state I am also licensed with my CCW. I have been to the Walmart right down the road from my house many times and have carried concealed and open in there many times with no problems at all until tonight. one of the new heads there who also happens to be someone who told me it was state law that they can't sell ammo after 10pm. Which he said he would show me on paper and which he came back later and said he was wrong. after I had to argue with him about it. Well he seen me in there tonight and asked what was going on I stated nothing same stuff different day. as he walked by he seen my pistol being open carried to which he ask me to cover it up that its company policy that it can't be visible. I did what he asked but stated I seen no sign posted nor have I ever had a problem with it and Virginia is an open carry state. He said he was positive it was store policy but never offer to show me nor did he have it on paper. My thing is this is the same guy who was so sure about the ammo and was completely wrong. So I told him I'm gonna look into it personally as I have never had a problem before with open carry. Anyone have any info? If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but I want to be proved wrong. Thanks in advance

[aadvark]

jhp:

Wal-Mart allows the Open carry of HandGuns in their Retail Establishments, consistent to applicable State Law wherein the State that the Wal-Mart is found.

In short..., IF your actions with your HandGun are Lawful in a particular State, then, Wal-Marts throughout the same State will follow the Law in question as well.

Call Wal-Mart at: 1-800-WAL-MART.

aadvark

P.S.: Must People THINK that they know The Law, BUT they do not! I have never heard of any such non-sense as..., '...[w]e can not sell Ammo past 10 p.m...'. The comment is laughable, especially in The CommonWealth of Virginia.

P.S.2: An Employee does not have the force and effect of a Manager, and MANY Wal-Mart Managers ARE aware of Wal-Mart's Official Company Policy as above, and on file with the Customer Service Personnel at the Wal-Mart Phone No., as provided.

[NewHampshireNative2005]

Okay here's the problem I had tonight and I'm gonna look into Walmarts open carry policy and would appreciate any help. I live in Virginia which is a open carry state I am also licensed with my CCW. I have been to the Walmart right down the road from my house many times and have carried concealed and open in there many times with no problems at all until tonight. one of the new heads there who also happens to be someone who told me it was state law that they can't sell ammo after 10pm. Which he said he would show me on paper and which he came back later and said he was wrong. after I had to argue with him about it. Well he seen me in there tonight and asked what was going on I stated nothing same stuff different day. as he walked by he seen my pistol being open carried to which he ask me to cover it up that its company policy that it can't be visible. I did what he asked but stated I seen no sign posted nor have I ever had a problem with it and Virginia is an open carry state. He said he was positive it was store policy but never offer to show me nor did he have it on paper. My thing is this is the same guy who was so sure about the ammo and was completely wrong. So I told him I'm gonna look into it personally as I have never had a problem before with open carry. Anyone have any info? If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but I want to be proved wrong. Thanks in advance

WalMart's use to have a map of the US in the sporting goods area of the store showing what stores would sell firearms in each state. Show the states in green and the none firearm states in red. Under that in big white text it would say "Hours Firearms May be Purchased 8:00am-10:00pm" It said nothing about ammo. The (C) on the bottom of the sign is dated 2004. To the best of my knowledge there is no law stating you can not buy ammo and or a firearm after 10pm. It's just a WalMart Policy! Why that is I have no idea! Some say it's because WalMart does not want department registers open after 10pm they want cashiers upfront after the night peek hours. Now states may have some laws on the books or even a federal law stating it. But I have not been able to find one(fed law that is) I don't have the time to search every state for a law or city code. WalMart workers are over worked and under paid so most don't give a crap what you do in the store. At the same time you do have a few workers who think they are hot s h i t because they work for WalMart. Who will try and act like a manager and pull company policy's and even State/Fed laws out of their asses! Just to make it seem that you cant do something and make them self's look bigger then they are.

[NRAMARINE]

Walmart's official corporate policy is to follow state law. So if oc is legal in your state, carry on.

[Damiansar-15]

I think it depends on the management in place (see example link I found on youtube)... Some will ask you to leave and are not gun friendly... Since they do not have a defined policy that supports open carry like Star Bucks, I do not shop at Wally mart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8UT...eature=related

[nhsig220]

I think it depends on the management in place (see example link I found on youtube)... Some will ask you to leave and are not gun friendly... Since they do not have a defined policy that supports open carry like Star Bucks, I do not shop at Wally mart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8UT...eature=related

The guy who made that video is a real asshat, for many different reasons.

[KYGlockster]

Their official corporate policy is to allow what state law allows, that way they seem to respect our rights. However, they do allow the GM of the store to decide if firearms can be carried or not. It states right under their official policy statement this very information on their website. If they honestly respected our rights, then they wouldn't have a sales clerk carry a firearm purchase to the door before handing it to the purchaser. This is why I will never buy a firearm from walmart, and the fact it takes revenue from my local shops!

[hrdware]

Their official corporate policy is to allow what state law allows, that way they seem to respect our rights. However, they do allow the GM of the store to decide if firearms can be carried or not. It states right under their official policy statement this very information on their website. If they honestly respected our rights, then they wouldn't have a sales clerk carry a firearm purchase to the door before handing it to the purchaser. This is why I will never buy a firearm from walmart, and the fact it takes revenue from my local shops!

You wouldn't happen to have a link to this information from their site would you?

[Jack House]

The guy who made that video is a real asshat, for many different reasons.

I couldn't bother to watch the video, he sounded drunk on the recording which annoyed. Care to share why you feel that he is an asshat?

[KYGlockster]

I went searching for the site but can't find it. I read that several years ago on a website of theirs, however, I emailed their customer service, and received the same response as in post#2.

[BryteEyez]

WalMart's use to have a map of the US in the sporting goods area of the store showing what stores would sell firearms in each state. Show the states in green and the none firearm states in red. Under that in big white text it would say "Hours Firearms May be Purchased 8:00am-10:00pm" It said nothing about ammo. The (C) on the bottom of the sign is dated 2004. To the best of my knowledge there is no law stating you can not buy ammo and or a firearm after 10pm. It's just a WalMart Policy! Why that is I have no idea! Some say it's because WalMart does not want department registers open after 10pm they want cashiers upfront after the night peek hours. Now states may have some laws on the books or even a federal law stating it. But I have not been able to find one(fed law that is) I don't have the time to search every state for a law or city code. WalMart workers are over worked and under paid so most don't give a crap what you do in the store. At the same time you do have a few workers who think they are hot s h i t because they work for WalMart. Who will try and act like a manager and pull company policy's and even State/Fed laws out of their asses! Just to make it seem that you cant do something and make them self's look bigger then they are.

I actually work for Wal-Mart in the Sporting Goods Dept. We were told the N.I.C.S. Information line we call for background checks (because not all of us have a CC Permit.) This is not true. N.I.C.S. is available 24/7. This is a Home Office decision. It is programmed into the computer system and will not permit a firearm sale after 9:59pm. Ammunition sales after 10pm are a store managers call. Just as it is the store managers call to require all HANDGUN ammunition to be rang AT THE SPORTING GOODS COUNTER. (Such as in our store).
While an associate is on the clock we are not permitted to carry. (it is against policy for me to even have in my vehicle.)

[mpguy]

So in Virginia, you can buy ammo after 10 pm from wally world? I would love a updated phone number to request this info, because I do most of my shopping on the weekend late to avoid the hussle and bussle.

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[Jack House]

I actually work for Wal-Mart in the Sporting Goods Dept. We were told the N.I.C.S. Information line we call for background checks (because not all of us have a CC Permit.) This is not true. N.I.C.S. is available 24/7. This is a Home Office decision. It is programmed into the computer system and will not permit a firearm sale after 9:59pm. Ammunition sales after 10pm are a store managers call. Just as it is the store managers call to require all HANDGUN ammunition to be rang AT THE SPORTING GOODS COUNTER. (Such as in our store).
While an associate is on the clock we are not permitted to carry. (it is against policy for me to even have in my vehicle.)

NICS ain't open 24 hours.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics

NICS is customarily available 17 hours a day, seven days a week, including holidays (except for Christmas).

As for Wal-Mart not selling ammunition after 10pm, I could have sworn I'd addressed that already. But oh well. I used to work at Wal-Mart as an overnight cashier. If someone is telling you that Wal-Mart corporate policy prohibits ammo sells after midnight, they're flatout lying to you. Though it's possible they aren't aware they're lying to you. I sold ammo all the damn time when I worked there. My hours were always 10-7.

If you go to Wal-Mart after a certain hour and they tell you they can't/wont sell ammo to you because it's after hours and it's not a STATE, COUNTY or LOCAL law/ordinance, politely ask to speak with a CO-manager. The store manager most likely wont be there. If they still block you. Then leave, and if you're still interested in buying ammunition at the store after say midnight, then speak with the store manager. Failing that, then speak with the district manager. You're pretty likely to get the policy overturned by the DM unless the DM is an anti. The reasons for refusing to sell ammo after 10pm is just as likely to have to do with productivity than them just having some stupid anti-gun policy.

[mpguy]

NICS ain't open 24 hours.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics



As for Wal-Mart not selling ammunition after 10pm, I could have sworn I'd addressed that already. But oh well. I used to work at Wal-Mart as an overnight cashier. If someone is telling you that Wal-Mart corporate policy prohibits ammo sells after midnight, they're flatout lying to you. Though it's possible they aren't aware they're lying to you. I sold ammo all the damn time when I worked there. My hours were always 10-7.

If you go to Wal-Mart after a certain hour and they tell you they can't/wont sell ammo to you because it's after hours and it's not a STATE, COUNTY or LOCAL law/ordinance, politely ask to speak with a CO-manager. The store manager most likely wont be there. If they still block you. Then leave, and if you're still interested in buying ammunition at the store after say midnight, then speak with the store manager. Failing that, then speak with the district manager. You're pretty likely to get the policy overturned by the DM unless the DM is an anti. The reasons for refusing to sell ammo after 10pm is just as likely to have to do with productivity than them just having some stupid anti-gun policy.

Sorry bud. Didn't mean to seem like I was ignoring your post. I just saw you said used to, and with no set time of how long it was you did work there, I asked for the updated info. I worked at the Suffolk one, but its been years lol.

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[estvupastr]

this past week I entered the walmart store in Rockmart Ga. while standing with my grandson, my son in law and a friend talking, An off duty Police officer hired by walmart stepped up in the middle of our conversation and ask If I was carring a weapon. I told him no. he ask again are you sure,???? I told him no I was not carrying a weapon but if I were, I had a carry permit . and I asked him why did he ask, he informed me that one of the managers sent him to check me, that ticked me off. if that your policy? to just randomly check a customer if he feels like it.???? I do have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and I dont think it is anyones business just to come up and ask violating someones freedom and privacy as your own policy only ask that the weapons not be visible, you need to inform your people of that and not check your customers who are only carrying cell phones on their belt.

I was searching the web for information on WalMarts Firearm policy and came across this letter from WalMart stating their Firearm Policy for Concealed Carry as well as Open Carry.

"DATE: Friday, April 16,1999 2:13 PM

Subject: RE: Firearms

Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-Mart was founded by Sam Walton on three basic principles. Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.

The following is our policy......If a Wal-Mart customer has been awarded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property, With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-Mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than law enforcement personnel wearing or carrying a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.

We appreciate your concern and trust that this message has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.

Thank you,

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc."

As you can see the date of the replay is 1999 so I'm unsure if they still follow this policy or if it has been changed to meet the times. I searched more and have been unable to find anything saying it was changed. I will call WalMart and get a Up to date letter with contact information from Corp. So when we do this OC at WalMart we can show them the letter stating walmarts policy and who we spoke to.

[MAC702]

this past week I entered the walmart store in Rockmart Ga. while standing with my grandson, my son in law and a friend talking, An off duty Police officer hired by walmart stepped up in the middle of our conversation and ask If I was carring a weapon. I told him no. he ask again are you sure,???? I told him no I was not carrying a weapon but if I were, I had a carry permit . and I asked him why did he ask, he informed me that one of the managers sent him to check me, that ticked me off. if that your policy? to just randomly check a customer if he feels like it.???? I do have a permit to carry a concealed weapon, and I dont think it is anyones business just to come up and ask violating someones freedom and privacy as your own policy only ask that the weapons not be visible, you need to inform your people of that and not check your customers who are only carrying cell phones on their belt.

Please contact the store manager and inform him of this. If you do not like his response, contact the district manager. The DM will set the store straight with current corporate policy.

Please do not allow this opportunity to correct the store staff (and hopefully their hired JBT) to pass.

And please carry a gun! Half of our problem is gun-owning Americans that CAN carry and don't. This emboldens both criminals (for obvious reasons) as well as cops, who like to think it is their elite privilege. The more we carry (especially OC), the more we normalize it.

Welcome!

[Jack House]

That is most certainly NOT Walmart policy and while managers are largely free to make up their own policies, this type of behavior will most definitely get them chewed out by corporate.

If you contract the store manager and don't get an adequate response, ask for the name and number of the market manager.

Be sure to ask for the MARKET manager. That is the store manager's boss and will tell them you are familiar with corporate structure and that you're willing to call them.

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