Thread: Ever had to pull on a bad guy?
Has anyone ever had to draw down on a bad guy? or actually been involved in a self defense shooting here?
In a situation when seconds count-The police will be there in minutes.
Not every one posts in that section.
Me,back in Feb. i came close,had to shoulder my ruger(keeping it pointed down though)
My ex step father/sisters father (whom hasnt lived here in 4 1/2 years and has no custody)
got released from jail at 5am and walked right over here,apparently to try and beg for a place to stay from what he says,well it was about 6am and he decided to try and break in my front door to gain access to the inside.
He was pounding on the door,hard enough that it sent a nice crack through the door frame and indents on the door itself.
I got woke up by my dog,heard the noise,grabbed my ruger and then held him there for a minute,until i realized it was him,then i let him in.
no LEO's involved,he offered to fix the damage,he didnt have a coat on.
Then another time,back in late july,a group of drunk guys at a movie theatre decided to pick a fight with me and aliesha(last movie of the night,we were the only ones left in there)
Long story short,i pulled my knife out and kept them at bay until security arrived,they ran off.
not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.
Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.
Never so much as a close call while OCing. At home I have had one hidden but in my hand at the door on a couple of occasions, but these instances were solved with words without them ever knowing I had a weapon.
Oh wait. One time when a drunk guy stumbled into my apartment late at night. He was just in the wrong place, and was too far gone to even see the gun.
beerme,dont start again,you know that is not true,i merely said to stop or risk being shot(or something similar,cant remember exactly)
Last edited by lil_freak_66; 09-30-2010 at 05:40 PM.
not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.
He never saw the gun. It was raining, and at night. I was following this van, looked like an old ford used for plumbing repair, he was doing 20 in a 25 and pulled to the right, so I thought he was stopping so I went around him. Next thing he gets on my @$$ with his high beams on. Great. So I sped up a bit, and he stated right there, so I sped up a bit more and tagged the brakes to let him know. That didnt work, so I nailed the gas, so did he, we were going XXX mph for a bit, so when I turned back on the main road, I let him pass hoping that would appease him, and put me back in control of the situation. Well, he stopped in the middle of the road, so I kept behind and to the right. He pulled to the side of the road, and I kept myself positioned facing the opposite direction but where I could leave in any direction I chose, quickly if needed. By then, I had already drawn, and my window was down. I kept his van to the left side of my car the entire time. Then he gets out, and puts his hands up in that confrontational "whats up" fashion, and starts swearing at me, "WTF is your problem @$$hole", you know. I told him that I thought he was stopping, he comes back with "I was doing 25, Ive got a 3 year old in the car." I responded with, "then why don't you drive like you have got a 3 year old in the car you f*cking idiot"? His wife was inn the window, obviously ashamed and embarrassed. He was debating on approaching me, he was about 40 feet away, but wasn't sure. I told him "You are in way over your head here, you need to get back in your van and go home" and I pulled away. I had the opportunity to leave, and I set things up so he was outside the van which was pointing the other direction, so I was able to disappear before he could follow me. I know the area very well, so I knew how long it would take him to get to the next light, so I ducked into a neighborhood, and waited for a minute. as I had expected, when I got back out and to the light, I was 2 cars behind. As he turned onto the main road, I was able to get behind him, and get the plate # in case I needed it later. He saw me, and turned the opposite direction that he was originally going, probably because he knew I was following him, and didn't know if I would try to follow him home. I'm sure he was wondering hownthe heck I wound up behind him to begin with.
Nope.But the training to draw did go through my mind when the first time a gun was pointed at me,until I recognized it was a LEO pointing it at me.My brain worked just as it has been trained ,in a millisecond,and kept me calm and on extremely high alert!
Today JESUS would tell me to sell my coat and buy two Springfield XD Compact 45acp's!
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once. stopped for gas on 8 mile in southfield after work at night. after i gassed up i sat in my pickup for a minute looking for something. a messy unshaven white guy early 20's came up to my driver window. sig sauer was already in my hand. he asked if i any had money to give to him. i said i have money just none for you. he said more insistantly that i need to give him money. said again - not for you. his hands were in his pockets and i kept my eyes on that and said 'you need to go away from me right now'. he demanded i show him how much i had. i said 'yeah you're right. i have 9 (pointing it at him). all he said was 'bye' and pedaled away. i didn't report it to the police.
i think he was trying to intimidate me without ever saying a direct threat. that way if caught he could say he was just trying to panhandle and not rob.
if anybody is old enough to remember the bernard goetz case in new york this was a good example. he said they threatened him with a screwdriver on the subway and demanded money. he had a concealed revolver and shot them. when interviewed they said they were just asking for money. for a while he was the poster child for personal protection even if he had an illegal weapon in new york.
Exo 22:2 "If anyone catches a thief breaking in and hits him so that he dies, he is not guilty of murder.
Luke 22:36: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luk 11:21 "When a strong man, with all his weapons ready, guards his own house, all his belongings are safe.
One of the NYC thugs demanded five dollars. Bernie's reply was my sig line for a long time. "I'll give each of you five dollars"
Last edited by lapeer20m; 10-03-2010 at 12:16 PM.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (who will watch the watchmen?)
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of posts should be construed as legal advice.