WisconsinPI
Regular Member
Below is an email transcript of the entire conversation, i've yet to recieve a reply, obviously read bottom to top.
Then I believe all armored security drivers in the state of wisconsin should be arrested immediatly on sight today. I believe I found the statue correcting your statement.
Private detectives and security can transport loaded and unencased firearms in vehicles, but they cannot carry concealed weapons unless they also happen to be sworn peace officers.
(4) EXCEPTIONS. (a) Subsections (2) and (3) do not apply to
any of the following who, in the line of duty, place, possess, transport,
load or discharge a firearm in, on or from a vehicle, motorboat
or aircraft or discharge a firearm from or across a highway or
within 50 feet of the center of a roadway:
2. A member of the U.S. armed forces.
3. A member of the national guard.
4. A private security person who meets all of the following
requirements:
a. He or she holds either a private detective license issued
under s. 440.26 (2) (a) 2. or a private security permit issued under
s. 440.26 (5).
b. He or she holds a certificate of proficiency to carry a firearm
issued by the department of regulation and licensing.
c. He or she is performing his or her assigned duties or responsibilities.
d. He or she is wearing a uniform that clearly identifies him
or her as a private security person.
e. His or her firearm is in plain view, as defined by rule by the
department of regulation and licensing
--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Backey, Elaine - DRL <Elaine.Backey@wisconsin.gov> wrote:
> From: Backey, Elaine - DRL <Elaine.Backey@wisconsin.gov>
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed security question
> To: "'wiustiffler@yahoo.com'" <wiustiffler@yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 9:26 AM
> There is no exception.
>
> ELAINE M BACKEY
> DEPT OF REGULATION & LICENSING
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wiustiffler@yahoo.com
> [mailto:wiustiffler@yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:25 AM
> To: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> Subject: Re: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
>
> I thought there was an exception for place of business with
> consent of owner to conceal, ie when your armed in your car
> its concealed but its place of business private property
> ------Original Message------
> From: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> To: 'wiustiffler@yahoo.com'
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
> Sent: Sep 27, 2010 7:52 AM
>
> You can only wear it when you are working, when driving in
> your vehicle, it should be in the trunk and disarmed.
>
> ELAINE M BACKEY
> DEPT OF REGULATION & LICENSING
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prine, Kim - DRL
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: 'Nationwide Solar Products'
> Cc: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
>
> I'm referring your question to the person who handles that
> firearm permits.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nationwide Solar Products [mailto:wiustiffler@yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> To: DRL
> Subject: private detective doing uniformed armed security
> question
>
> Can a uniformed licensed PI doing uniformed armed security
> while on area patrol carry his firearm in holster while
> driving his vehicle? I know a regular citizen cannot, does
> the law require an armed guard to disarm and rearm every
> time he gets in and out of a vehicle?
>
> thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry(r) smartphone
>
Then I believe all armored security drivers in the state of wisconsin should be arrested immediatly on sight today. I believe I found the statue correcting your statement.
Private detectives and security can transport loaded and unencased firearms in vehicles, but they cannot carry concealed weapons unless they also happen to be sworn peace officers.
(4) EXCEPTIONS. (a) Subsections (2) and (3) do not apply to
any of the following who, in the line of duty, place, possess, transport,
load or discharge a firearm in, on or from a vehicle, motorboat
or aircraft or discharge a firearm from or across a highway or
within 50 feet of the center of a roadway:
2. A member of the U.S. armed forces.
3. A member of the national guard.
4. A private security person who meets all of the following
requirements:
a. He or she holds either a private detective license issued
under s. 440.26 (2) (a) 2. or a private security permit issued under
s. 440.26 (5).
b. He or she holds a certificate of proficiency to carry a firearm
issued by the department of regulation and licensing.
c. He or she is performing his or her assigned duties or responsibilities.
d. He or she is wearing a uniform that clearly identifies him
or her as a private security person.
e. His or her firearm is in plain view, as defined by rule by the
department of regulation and licensing
--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Backey, Elaine - DRL <Elaine.Backey@wisconsin.gov> wrote:
> From: Backey, Elaine - DRL <Elaine.Backey@wisconsin.gov>
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed security question
> To: "'wiustiffler@yahoo.com'" <wiustiffler@yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 9:26 AM
> There is no exception.
>
> ELAINE M BACKEY
> DEPT OF REGULATION & LICENSING
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wiustiffler@yahoo.com
> [mailto:wiustiffler@yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:25 AM
> To: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> Subject: Re: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
>
> I thought there was an exception for place of business with
> consent of owner to conceal, ie when your armed in your car
> its concealed but its place of business private property
> ------Original Message------
> From: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> To: 'wiustiffler@yahoo.com'
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
> Sent: Sep 27, 2010 7:52 AM
>
> You can only wear it when you are working, when driving in
> your vehicle, it should be in the trunk and disarmed.
>
> ELAINE M BACKEY
> DEPT OF REGULATION & LICENSING
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prine, Kim - DRL
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: 'Nationwide Solar Products'
> Cc: Backey, Elaine - DRL
> Subject: RE: private detective doing uniformed armed
> security question
>
> I'm referring your question to the person who handles that
> firearm permits.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nationwide Solar Products [mailto:wiustiffler@yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> To: DRL
> Subject: private detective doing uniformed armed security
> question
>
> Can a uniformed licensed PI doing uniformed armed security
> while on area patrol carry his firearm in holster while
> driving his vehicle? I know a regular citizen cannot, does
> the law require an armed guard to disarm and rearm every
> time he gets in and out of a vehicle?
>
> thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry(r) smartphone
>