Just because you are drinking should not mean you lose the right to protect yourself.
Gosh lets talk about this shall we?
I suppose any mind-altering substance could be inserted in your statement, eh? Pot? Acid? Meth? What about mind-altering prescription drugs? Or what about someone on Lithium that goes on a drunk? Perhaps you are one of those rare and unique individuals who can stay up all night drinking and the alcohol has no effect on their judgment?
Heres a little secret about me. I don't drink much to excess, maybe once or twice a year but when I do I can drink like a fish. But there comes a point along about midnight when I pretty much blackout and am not a good drunk and anything could happen and I do mean anything. Wanta go drinking with me when I'm armed?
What about the right to leave your gun at home when you are out drinking to protect yourself from yourself?
My statement still stands though, if someone is attacking you and no matter what "drug" you are on, you still have the right to your life, or are you not getting this?
IMHO if your mind is alterd your as good as mentaly instable (not the laws stand though just mho)which the laws says your not allowed to carry if your mental ability is gone, just because some idiots drive after a few does not make it any more legal. I also must LMAO @ marijuana altering your mind past reality, i do not use but i have in the past same as alcahol. to be honest my mind seems more stable on marijuana then alcahol but that's just another debate really.Let's take a look at different drugs. A single or a couple of beers isn't going to make you go crazy.
How many times have you or anyone you know had a couple of beers and drove home? Oh the horror! /sarcasm. You are in charge of a vehicle weight over a ton that can can drive over 60mph. Sounds like more of a dangerous situation than a holstered firearm that never leaves its holster.
Acid, marijuana, meth, etc, they alter your mind to the point where you cannot tell what reality is. As for some prescribed drugs, same thing. Sometimes they mess with your head too much.
My statement still stands though, if someone is attacking you and no matter what "drug" you are on, you still have the right to your life, or are you not getting this?
Just because you are drinking should not mean you lose the right to protect yourself.
lol, lose your right or not does not really matter, you will lose your ability, if you dont think so lets meet at the bar, you can get drunk and i will stay sober, then we will thumb wrestle ;D and see how it turns out.
lol, lose your right or not does not really matter, you will lose your ability, if you dont think so lets meet at the bar, you can get drunk and i will stay sober, then we will thumb wrestle ;D and see how it turns out.
I hate to even get involved in where this thread is going, but I have to say I am concerned that you seem to imply that drinking or going to the bar is an equivalent to getting 'drunk'. If you are going to the bar and getting drunk, you are already making poor decisions that have little to do with whether or not you have a firearm.
For many other people in this country, they can have a drink or two, not be impaired and not have to drink until they are 'drunk'.
Wouldn't it be interesting to see the day we might be able to invest in opening up a open carry bar, and welcome those who open carry. Lets call it "carry on grill and bar" I used to shoot bow at a range in Adams, and they had a bar and served beer to you after you shot, not before.
What a debate this would be, alcohal and firearms!!
Go figure though, I can legally carry concealed in a bar under HR 218, but I can't carry in a State Park, working on that though.
Here is a link to the article about a shooting in a bar:
A judge has ordered that concealed weapons charges be dismissed against four off-duty Washington police officers who were charged in connection with a shooting during the Sturgis rally.
Circuit Judge Warren Johnson ruled Friday that Scott Lazalde, Dennis McCoy, James Rector and Ron Smith are exempt from prosecution under South Dakota state law because of the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act.
http://pafop38.com/2008/12/28/south...-218-the-law-enforcement-officers-safety-act/
Don
I hate to even get involved in where this thread is going, but I have to say I am concerned that you seem to imply that drinking or going to the bar is an equivalent to getting 'drunk'. If you are going to the bar and getting drunk, you are already making poor decisions that have little to do with whether or not you have a firearm.
For many other people in this country, they can have a drink or two, not be impaired and not have to drink until they are 'drunk'.