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    RALEIGH — North Carolina's House Republican leader

    Rep. Larry Brown, R-Forsyth. I think this is the bill everyone has been looking for. here's some more. Ambitious gun rights agenda introduced in North Carolina


    Ambitious gun rights agenda introduced in North Carolina

    * February 26th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

    SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE REPORT

    While gun rights advocates nationwide assume a defensive stance in response to the election of Barack Obama and the stranglehold on Congress by Democrats, some state legislators and state-level groups like Grass Roots North Carolina are out of the foxholes and fighting for legislation to enhance lawful self-defense.

    Within the last week, no fewer than five pro-gun bills have been introduced in the North Carolina General Assembly thanks to pro-Second Amendment legislators like Representatives Mark Hilton, George Cleveland, Justin Burr, Jim Gulley, Tim Moore, Fred Steen, and Laura Wiley; and Senator Andrew Brock. More gun legislation can be expected to be introduced prior to the bill introduction deadlines of March 25 for the Senate and April 8 for the House.

    What you must do

    * Contact appropriate committee chairs of committees to which the bills
    Rep. Mark Hilton (R-Catawba) earned GRNC's highest 4-star rating and has introduced numerous pro-gun bills.
    * have been assigned using linksbelow and tell them the bills deserve hearings;
    * Subscribe to and read legislative alerts from GRNC; and
    * Thank legislators who stand for your rights using links below, especially if your legislator is among them. For additional co-sponsors, use the links for individual bills.

    H257: ‘No Seizure of Lawful Firearms in Emergency’

    Introduced by Reps. Cleveland, Hilton, Moore and Wiley, H 257 is intended to prevent gun confiscation such as occurred in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. The bill modifies the power of the Governor during states of emergency to specifically prohibit seizure of lawfully held firearms, ammunition or components.

    H 269: ‘Concealed Handgun Permit Valid in Parks’

    Introduced by Reps. Hilton, Burr, Cleveland, and Gulley, H 269 closes a loophole in the statewide uniformity clause of North Carolina’s concealed handgun permit law under which “units of local government” can ban concealed carry in public parks.

    H 270: ‘Personal Protection in Restaurants’

    Introduced by Reps. Hilton, Steen, Burr and Cleveland, H 270 closes a loophole in North Carolina’s concealed handgun law under which permit-holders are prohibited from protecting themselves and their families in restaurants which serve alcohol. Although gun control advocates will probably try to assert otherwise, nothing in the bill changes the current prohibition on consuming alcohol while carrying firearms.

    S 234: ‘Sport Shooting Range Protection’

    Introduced by Sen. Brock, S 234 closes a loophole in the existing range protection law under which a range which is forced to relocate loses protection against noise and environmental complaints provided by the 1997 range protection law, and can be closed due to noise or other complaints. Under Brock's bill, a range forced to move due to condemnation, rezoning, annexation, road construction or development would still be protected.

    S 235: ‘Personal Protection in Restaurants’

    Introduced by Sen. Brock, this bill is an identical companion bill to H 270 above.

    The good, the bad …

    Now that the bills have received a “First Reading” on the floor of their respective chambers, each has received an assignment to a particular committee for a hearing. Make no mistake: With Democrats firmly in control of both chambers of the legislature, they will likely try to kill pro-gun legislation by denying them hearings. Bills which don’t get a hearing and which don’t pass votes on Second and Third Readings on the chamber floor by the May 14 “crossover deadline” are dead.

    HOUSE: The three House bills have all been referred to the House Judiciary III Committee. While chaired by Rep. Ronnie Sutton, a Democrat who has voted with gun owners only 65% of the time, this the best committee assignment the bill could have received. While not a Second Amendment supporter, Sutton tends to be at least fair in giving bills hearings.

    SENATE: The Senate bills will have a tougher time getting hearings. Although Brock is on the Judiciary I Committee to which they were assigned, committee chair Sen. Martin Nesbitt is a Democrat with a only a 68% pro-gun voting record in a chamber historically hostile to gun rights.

    … and the ridiculous

    As detailed in my “Phony Gun Groups” series, anti-gun Democrats perpetually try to camouflage their agenda by appealing to hunters and sportsmen. Such is the case with SB 329: “Right to Hunt,” introduced by Sen. David Hoyle. With a mediocre 81% pro-gun voting record, Hoyle has not been a consistent supporter of the Second Amendment. And while the bill purports to create a “right to hunt,” the “conditions and restrictions” sound like the disclaimers read at the end of a shady radio commercial. Given that Hoyle’s “right” is subject to any present or future restrictions resulting from “laws as enacted by the General Assembly, and rules and regulations adopted by an administrative agency to which authority has been delegated”, the bill represents meaningless posturing.

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    Check out other Gun Rights Examiners:

    * Austin: Big government versus your civil rights
    * Cleveland: We don't do what we're told
    * DC: No right to arms, no vote in Congress!
    * Denver: Fending off fascism
    * Los Angeles: No question about it: they're coming for the guns. And the money, and the energy, and the food . . .
    * Minneapolis: Open carry is the 2nd Amendment
    * National: Coming soon: 'assault weapons' ban 2?
    * Seattle: Alarm company ads send wrong message about self-protection
    * St. Louis: The idiocy of 'smart guns'

    While we are at it, lets make it legal to carry where a fee has been charged to enter (like a movie theater)that is an absurd part of the law. Lets also stop needing to inform Law enforcement when carrying (you already have to walk on water to get a ccw in NC)and lets allow ccw holders to pick the kids up from school as long as they don't enter the school. Then we will have a good common sense ccw law finally.

    Denied a NC ccw permit? If you are not a convicted felon or been adjudicated as mentally unfit by the courts, the answer is OUT OF STATE PERMITS! NC has to Honor them! They Are Legal!

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner View Post
    Rep. Larry Brown, R-Forsyth. I think this is the bill everyone has been looking for. here's some more. Ambitious gun rights agenda introduced in North Carolina


    Ambitious gun rights agenda introduced in North Carolina

    * February 26th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

    SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE REPORT

    While gun rights advocates nationwide assume a defensive stance in response to the election of Barack Obama and the stranglehold on Congress by Democrats, some state legislators and state-level groups like Grass Roots North Carolina are out of the foxholes and fighting for legislation to enhance lawful self-defense.

    Within the last week, no fewer than five pro-gun bills have been introduced in the North Carolina General Assembly thanks to pro-Second Amendment legislators like Representatives Mark Hilton, George Cleveland, Justin Burr, Jim Gulley, Tim Moore, Fred Steen, and Laura Wiley; and Senator Andrew Brock. More gun legislation can be expected to be introduced prior to the bill introduction deadlines of March 25 for the Senate and April 8 for the House.

    What you must do

    * Contact appropriate committee chairs of committees to which the bills
    Rep. Mark Hilton (R-Catawba) earned GRNC's highest 4-star rating and has introduced numerous pro-gun bills.
    * have been assigned using linksbelow and tell them the bills deserve hearings;
    * Subscribe to and read legislative alerts from GRNC; and
    * Thank legislators who stand for your rights using links below, especially if your legislator is among them. For additional co-sponsors, use the links for individual bills.

    H257: ‘No Seizure of Lawful Firearms in Emergency’

    Introduced by Reps. Cleveland, Hilton, Moore and Wiley, H 257 is intended to prevent gun confiscation such as occurred in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. The bill modifies the power of the Governor during states of emergency to specifically prohibit seizure of lawfully held firearms, ammunition or components.

    H 269: ‘Concealed Handgun Permit Valid in Parks’

    Introduced by Reps. Hilton, Burr, Cleveland, and Gulley, H 269 closes a loophole in the statewide uniformity clause of North Carolina’s concealed handgun permit law under which “units of local government” can ban concealed carry in public parks.

    H 270: ‘Personal Protection in Restaurants’

    Introduced by Reps. Hilton, Steen, Burr and Cleveland, H 270 closes a loophole in North Carolina’s concealed handgun law under which permit-holders are prohibited from protecting themselves and their families in restaurants which serve alcohol. Although gun control advocates will probably try to assert otherwise, nothing in the bill changes the current prohibition on consuming alcohol while carrying firearms.

    S 234: ‘Sport Shooting Range Protection’

    Introduced by Sen. Brock, S 234 closes a loophole in the existing range protection law under which a range which is forced to relocate loses protection against noise and environmental complaints provided by the 1997 range protection law, and can be closed due to noise or other complaints. Under Brock's bill, a range forced to move due to condemnation, rezoning, annexation, road construction or development would still be protected.

    S 235: ‘Personal Protection in Restaurants’

    Introduced by Sen. Brock, this bill is an identical companion bill to H 270 above.

    The good, the bad …

    Now that the bills have received a “First Reading” on the floor of their respective chambers, each has received an assignment to a particular committee for a hearing. Make no mistake: With Democrats firmly in control of both chambers of the legislature, they will likely try to kill pro-gun legislation by denying them hearings. Bills which don’t get a hearing and which don’t pass votes on Second and Third Readings on the chamber floor by the May 14 “crossover deadline” are dead.

    HOUSE: The three House bills have all been referred to the House Judiciary III Committee. While chaired by Rep. Ronnie Sutton, a Democrat who has voted with gun owners only 65% of the time, this the best committee assignment the bill could have received. While not a Second Amendment supporter, Sutton tends to be at least fair in giving bills hearings.

    SENATE: The Senate bills will have a tougher time getting hearings. Although Brock is on the Judiciary I Committee to which they were assigned, committee chair Sen. Martin Nesbitt is a Democrat with a only a 68% pro-gun voting record in a chamber historically hostile to gun rights.

    … and the ridiculous

    As detailed in my “Phony Gun Groups” series, anti-gun Democrats perpetually try to camouflage their agenda by appealing to hunters and sportsmen. Such is the case with SB 329: “Right to Hunt,” introduced by Sen. David Hoyle. With a mediocre 81% pro-gun voting record, Hoyle has not been a consistent supporter of the Second Amendment. And while the bill purports to create a “right to hunt,” the “conditions and restrictions” sound like the disclaimers read at the end of a shady radio commercial. Given that Hoyle’s “right” is subject to any present or future restrictions resulting from “laws as enacted by the General Assembly, and rules and regulations adopted by an administrative agency to which authority has been delegated”, the bill represents meaningless posturing.

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    For previous columns by Paul Valone, go to:
    www.fpaulvalone.com

    For legislative information, go to:
    www.GRNC.org





    Check out other Gun Rights Examiners:

    * Austin: Big government versus your civil rights
    * Cleveland: We don't do what we're told
    * DC: No right to arms, no vote in Congress!
    * Denver: Fending off fascism
    * Los Angeles: No question about it: they're coming for the guns. And the money, and the energy, and the food . . .
    * Minneapolis: Open carry is the 2nd Amendment
    * National: Coming soon: 'assault weapons' ban 2?
    * Seattle: Alarm company ads send wrong message about self-protection
    * St. Louis: The idiocy of 'smart guns'

    While we are at it, lets make it legal to carry where a fee has been charged to enter (like a movie theater)that is an absurd part of the law. Lets also stop needing to inform Law enforcement when carrying (you already have to walk on water to get a ccw in NC)and lets allow ccw holders to pick the kids up from school as long as they don't enter the school. Then we will have a good common sense ccw law finally.

    Denied a NC ccw permit? If you are not a convicted felon or been adjudicated as mentally unfit by the courts, the answer is OUT OF STATE PERMITS! NC has to Honor them! They Are Legal!

    What do you think?
    Hey Spinner,

    Thanks for the info- much appreciated.

    My question concerns the last part in the post (which I have highlighted in bold): Wouldn't one have to be a resident of another state to apply for and be granted that state's version of a CC permit? For example, if a person is a resident of NC and he/ she is denied a CC permit, would he/ she even be eligible for an out of state permit without changing residency?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by rotorhead; 10-06-2010 at 09:01 AM.

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    What's with the date? February 26th, 2009 3:00 pm ET

    Is this really that old?

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    http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...north-carolina Sorry guy's I didn't finish all my post last last night. There are a bunch of bills for our gun right's introduced into the general assembly that are up for vote that started in 09 and run's into 2010. this is just 1 of a couple of good sites for good people out there defending our right's. This site should be a good start for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorhead View Post
    Hey Spinner,

    Thanks for the info- much appreciated.

    My question concerns the last part in the post (which I have highlighted in bold): Wouldn't one have to be a resident of another state to apply for and be granted that state's version of a CC permit? For example, if a person is a resident of NC and he/ she is denied a CC permit, would he/ she even be eligible for an out of state permit without changing residency?

    Thanks!
    Not necessarily, many states will grant out of state permits to non-residents. Florida is one of them, great source for having a second permit (in case NC permit gets revoked) or having it as your only permit.

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    Thanks for posting that. There is some good info there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleigh Homes View Post
    Hi! Thanks for the heads up. I am also looking for an article about this because I am working on a research. I recently moved to Raleigh and it's really helpful that I have read this article.
    And what are you researching?

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    either way we have a good opportunity to go forward with these bills. I would also like to see the castle doctrine passed. I think it could happen this time along with several other good bills and do away with these BS, bed wetter ,watered down laws. HEY LIBS, DO YOU HEAR US NOW ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wethepeople View Post
    either way we have a good opportunity to go forward with these bills. I would also like to see the castle doctrine passed. I think it could happen this time along with several other good bills and do away with these BS, bed wetter ,watered down laws. HEY LIBS, DO YOU HEAR US NOW ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    When the session starts next year Watch for the GRNC alerts, make the contact we ask for, HANG ON and enjoy the ride. We have BIG plans.

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