Thanks for the second link!
For a moment I thought Dave Ross was going to see the error of his ways when he acknowledged the Arizona identification scenario and his opposition. Silly me!
Why can he not see the difference between the two scenarios? An open carrier is breaking no laws by the mere fact that a weapon is visible. Absent suspicion of a crime, detainment and identification are not justified. Arizona requires that some infraction of the law be suspected prior to detainment and identification. The grey area, in my opinion, is what would merit an AZ officer to verify citizenship; but now we are way off topic.
Dave's suggestion that Arizona hispanics circumvent the problem by carrying firearms so they can't be stopped was a poor attempt at satire and is frustrating because he doesn't understand the difference between the two issues.
It is almost as if people like Dave think we want to be some special class of citizen that enjoys rights beyond those of others. The fact of the matter is that we are merely asking for respect of the fact that we are actively excercising our 2A while insisting on not forfeiting our 4A.