GlockRDH
Regular Member
Im getting ready to head out to church...how many of you OC there? Just curious...
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OC at church?
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J.Gleason
Banned
Hells yes!
Carry On!
Carry On!
Krusty
Regular Member
Church
I don't go to church, but if I did, I probably would not carry.
I don't go to church, but if I did, I probably would not carry.
Spartacus
Banned
I'd run it by your pastor first. Maybe he would want to make an announcement about it to the congregation.
Different denominations have varied views on non-resistance and OCing would be one of those touchy areas.
Different denominations have varied views on non-resistance and OCing would be one of those touchy areas.
J.Gleason
Banned
Considering that there has even been just one incident in a church where a mad gunman has come in and went on a shooting rampage, I think it is evident enough that there is a need to carry in a church.
Now if you are just doing it to "make a statement" then go for it. If you just want it there for the protection and do not want to make any statement then ccw while in church and enjoy the service.
Now if you are just doing it to "make a statement" then go for it. If you just want it there for the protection and do not want to make any statement then ccw while in church and enjoy the service.
GlockRDH
Regular Member
Years ago I did attend a Mennonite church in OK...they are passive and anti gun for the most part...Where I go now, would probably be quite receptive to it...may have to try it.
J.Gleason
Banned
do not ask permission to exercise your rights!........ever!
M
McX
Guest
i would like to carry in Church; but have several factors against me: though the Minister is neutral, he doesn't want to be drawn into an issue- i can respect that. We have a school attached to the Church, the Congregation is kinda lefty to me, and ofcourse- homeland attends my Church.
Doug Huffman
Banned
Considering that it is private property and sanctuary from the Leviathan, that might work, with the concurrence of the local synod/presbyter/council. Generally speaking the pastor is not authoritative.
Apropos this topic of Church Law, I lost a good correspondent recently and sent this;
"It kind of made up a bit for a night of disturbed sleep after attending an acquaintance's memorial service, Michael A. Murray, BA, MA, PhD, JD, working on Doctor of Canon Law JCD and admitted to the bar of the Supreme Court of the US as attorney and counselor, long time professor at DePaul U. and Islander.
I hope that your day is as beautiful as mine shining in the window, the golden delicious apple colors of Fall."
lance galloway
Regular Member
I OC all the time at my church and I know of 5 other guys in the church who would carry if thay could CC and I know my Paster supports the right to carry and has no problems OC in church.
And I did not ask for permission. I never ask it's my RIGHT.
And I did not ask for permission. I never ask it's my RIGHT.
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Doug Huffman
Banned
It is also private property and not yours.
paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
I have not as of yet. In talking to my pastor, he doesn't seem to have an issue with it. He mentioned that maybe he could put me in charge of the new security committee they are contemplating.
Doug Huffman
Banned
Apropos, todays NT lesson, 2 Tim 3:14 in some translation. A. Codevilla's point too.
In the presence of ..., who is to judge the living and the dead, ... I solemnly urge you: proclaim the message; be persistent whether the time is favorable or unfavorable; convince, rebuke, and encourage, with the utmost patience in teaching. For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths. As for you, always be sober, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist,..."
In the presence of ..., who is to judge the living and the dead, ... I solemnly urge you: proclaim the message; be persistent whether the time is favorable or unfavorable; convince, rebuke, and encourage, with the utmost patience in teaching. For the time is coming when people will not put up with sound teaching, but having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own desires, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander away to myths. As for you, always be sober, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist,..."
johnny amish
Regular Member
Luke 22:36
Luke 22:36 NIV translation
"But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
Seems as though our savior new that we needed to be able to protect ourselves.
Luke 22:36 NIV translation
"But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."
Seems as though our savior new that we needed to be able to protect ourselves.
paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
+1
Another church of our denomination hosts a sight in every year and the pastor of that church OCs.
http://slefc.community.officelive.com/Documents/Hunter Sight In '10 Letter sized.pdf
oak1971
Regular Member
It's private property and should be respected as such. If the Pastor says no, too bad for you. That is no place to start a urination contest.
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Cobbersmom
Regular Member
Last year my pastor asked me to carry in church.
sultan62
Regular Member
It works different ways at different places. However, in many cases, it is not the pastor's decision.
paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
We covered this in another thread. Yes, you are correct. Depends on the congregation and denomination, etc... A good start would be the pastor. He should know his rights and responsibilities.