GlockRDH
Regular Member
They unfriended me and deleted my post also...guess the facts hurt...
WE must make the argument for when a fence sitter happens by he/she will see both side, not just the anti argument.
It has nothing to do with the First Amendment. Non-government entities are free to censor as they will.
And the First Amendment's 'Establishment Clause' has nothing to do with "the separation of church and state."
Although it doesn't use the exact words in the constitution, it is what some of the founders for sure believed in.Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. Thomas Jefferson
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The WAVE people have ENDED the debate and are removing any pro-rights comments from the posts. Apparently, WAVE stands against the free exchange of ideas as well. ....
With respect, I believe it carries weight, if only because of lack of writing on the subject at the time. Not as much weight; as say, the federalist papers of course.I think that you are correct about the author/origin - but it ain't constitution, law or originalist jurisprudence. The United States of America is a Judeo-Christian nation. Read Angelo Codevilla's The Character of Nations.
I have not been banned, yet! and I have been having a very in depth discussion with a guy named Patrick over at the WAVE discussion page.
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Jeri B. Apologized for deleting the posts (She says her helpers did it, not her and either way it was a mistake on their part)
She also states she hopes to meet common ground with us freedom loving folk. (My words, not hers)
So I will continue to spread truth there and hopefully be able to turn a few fence-sitters the way of freedom.
I'll keep you updated
hey guys, I have not been banned from WAVE's discussion (yet), And I hope to keep it that way too.
I am sure we all agree that we need to disarm the criminals, and keep firearms out of their hands in the first place.
But I am making it very clear that the law-abiding citizen who takes responsibility for the safety of themselves and their loved ones are not the people that they need to be concerned about or be in fear from.
I have kept my end of the discussion very civil and to the point. I am not throwing insults around, I am not trying to belittle anyone, I am using simple logic. Basically doing everything opposite of our own sword-wielding OCDO member.
hey guys, I have not been banned from WAVE's discussion (yet), And I hope to keep it that way too.
I am sure we all agree that we need to disarm the criminals, and keep firearms out of their hands in the first place.
But I am making it very clear that the law-abiding citizen who takes responsibility for the safety of themselves and their loved ones are not the people that they need to be concerned about or be in fear from.
I have kept my end of the discussion very civil and to the point. I am not throwing insults around, I am not trying to belittle anyone, I am using simple logic. Basically doing everything opposite of our own sword-wielding OCDO member.
I do not own, nor do I know how to wield, a sword. I also don't recollect and do not believe I was throwing insults around. Either way, enjoy talking to the wall and let us know if you ever get anywhere cause for some reason they don't want to talk to most of us.
(I don't think he meant you.)
Keep with the missionary work. That ol' Jer B. Quite the name dropper. Saying a PPK-32 is better than a Davis. You won't find a "Davis" for sale at Bud's. Guess she was recollecting one of the great victories over the evil gun manufacturers.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_history_of_Davis_Industries_Firearms