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    Surprised? I'm not!

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    Gun Owners - Look What's on the 2010 Tax Return
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    Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return....
    If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!
    It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!
    Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2010 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!
    The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov. You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.
    Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
    Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009:www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text
    Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.
    It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'
    Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
    Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!

    To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

    Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: 1) It is registered 2) You are fingerprinted 3) You supply a current Driver's License 4) You supply your Social Security number 5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing. Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

    There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

    If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this.. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

    <Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress) " rel=nofollow><http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> :

    <H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>

    <H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>

    Please..... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!
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    You do realize that's dead legislation right?

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    [QUOTE=dizzle2;1381527]-- scary --


    Gun Owners - Look What's on the 2010 Tax Return
    Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp


    Er, no. Snopes has determined this to be false. See the link.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp

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    Someone else here posted this about a week ago...
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    [QUOTE=Contrarian;1381537]
    Quote Originally Posted by dizzle2 View Post
    -- scary --


    Gun Owners - Look What's on the 2010 Tax Return
    Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp


    Er, no. Snopes has determined this to be false. See the link.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp
    then whats this? http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Someone else here posted this about a week ago...
    it was probably the dude who sent it to me? u know who it was?

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    This has been circulating for sometime and going no where.

    HR 45
    Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
    Introduced Jan 6, 2009. WELL OVER A YEAR AGO. (No Cosponsors.)
    Referred to Committee, where it still sits. Theoretically dead
    Full Story and more bogus bills
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    [QUOTE=dizzle2;1381551]
    Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian View Post
    I would look more here:
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

    Bill introduced January 6, 2009 and referred to committee. Nothing since. Sounds pretty dead to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    This has been circulating for sometime and going no where.



    Full Story and more bogus bills
    well then...i hope ur right

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    I love urban legends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron1124 View Post
    I love urban legends.
    The sky is falling !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bersa.380 View Post
    The sky is falling !!!!
    Guilty until proven innocent...
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amzbrady View Post
    Guilty until proven innocent...
    hahahhaaaaaaha. nuff said. Iv'e been forwarded this message quite a few times and thought i'd post it on here just to see if i got a response. I figured someone would either tell me it was bogus or that it in fact is pretty shocking.

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    The bill is dead in theory, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't have an eye kept on it. The status quo seems to be sneak crap through when no one is looking, so it would be prudent to not just completely ignore it's status.

    And as a suggestion, can we start titling our threads with what the topic is actually about? For example, "Blair-Holt/H.R. 45 on 2010 Tax Returns". Then we can easily do a search before we start a thread to see if it's not already being covered on a recent one and not rehash the same stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiingislife725 View Post
    The bill is dead in theory, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't have an eye kept on it. The status quo seems to be sneak crap through when no one is looking, so it would be prudent to not just completely ignore it's status.

    And as a suggestion, can we start titling our threads with what the topic is actually about? For example, "Blair-Holt/H.R. 45 on 2010 Tax Returns". Then we can easily do a search before we start a thread to see if it's not already being covered on a recent one and not rehash the same stuff.
    You are right, we should all keep watching. Hopefully we will be sending some different people to Washington to do some watching for us as well.

    Suggestion, before broadcasting these "scare tactic" messages check them out. If you read the Snope's info on this you'd notice that the only correct part was the fact that there is a bill number. Legislation like this is a non-starter because even the majority of morons in Congress know that they'd be roasted on a spit if they passed a law like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    You are right, we should all keep watching. Hopefully we will be sending some different people to Washington to do some watching for us as well.

    Suggestion, before broadcasting these "scare tactic" messages check them out. If you read the Snope's info on this you'd notice that the only correct part was the fact that there is a bill number. Legislation like this is a non-starter because even the majority of morons in Congress know that they'd be roasted on a spit if they passed a law like this.
    didn't stop them from passing the healthcare bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzle2 View Post
    didn't stop them from passing the healthcare bill
    You can do anything when you have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and as well as control in the house. That's changing in 2 weeks. Possibly healthcare too.
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