Carry on NOVA campus

user said:

We need to get some folks on the boards of visitors of these colleges and universities.

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And that is where McDonnell should be helping!

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ed said:

Yep. And they have full authority to enforce all laws of the state on campus and within 300 yards or something like that.. I'd have to find the cite. I've read it before after reading the NVCC websire:

"All NOVA police officers are fully trained, state certified by the Department of Criminal Justice Services of the Commonwealth of Virginia and sworn. Their jurisdiction covers all property owned and controlled by NOVA -- its streets, sidewalks and highways immediately adjacent to each campus. All sworn officers shall preserve the public peace, protect life and property, enforce and uphold the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia. NOVA police officers patrol the campuses and are available to respond to calls 24 hours a day, seven days a week. They have authority to make arrests and carry firearms. They receive training at the Northern Virginia Criminal Academy in all aspects of law enforcement. "

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Raises an interesting question... I don't see anything in that paragraph about enforcing the school's policies, and while the officer in this event did not do anything beyond what it appears they are legally allowed to do, they clearly informed the school of the policy violation. Hmm.

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user said:

We need to get some folks on the boards of visitors of these colleges and universities.

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They are appointed: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-49.14

Just wanted to say thanks guys for all the helpful advice.
I decided to go in yesterday to go in and feel it out - I had a pretty good feeling about things because the police did not even mention anything of this sort to me when I was stopped.
The short of the story is I met with the Judicial counselor (not sure if that's his exact title) and he said he needed to call me in to give me a verbal warning and that I was not in any sort of the trouble at the time, to "just leave it at home". He said that the cops were so impressed at how respectful and open I was with them and that they really appreciated that.
Bottom Line: I need to find some off campus parking!
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This all brings to mind an incident that I remember from many years ago when I was a student at NVCC (Annandale was my home campus). There had been a rash of attacks on women who were taking evening classes. They were attacked when heading to their cars after class, late at night. Several rapes were the result of these attacks. At the time, I was taking a psychology class (ugh, but required), and one of the students was also a campus cop. He had caught the perp, at gun point as I recall.

Now had these ladies been armed, the results may have been different but alas, the nutso-feminazis would have had cows with the thought of a woman carrying a firearm and, God forbid, actually have used it to thwart an attack. Schools, be they primary, secondary, or higher ed, are beautiful target-rich environments for those bent on having a field day at the expense of innocent lives. The alter of contemporary agenda has room for the corpses of those who have been denied their natural and God-given right to defense. The ignorance of calling for more restrictions and controls after such attacks on our school campuses borders on criminal. When will these fools learn that they are feeding the beast?

Nova_gts said:

Just wanted to say thanks guys for all the helpful advice.
I decided to go in yesterday to go in and feel it out - I had a pretty good feeling about things because the police did not even mention anything of this sort to me when I was stopped.
The short of the story is I met with the Judicial counselor (not sure if that's his exact title) and he said he needed to call me in to give me a verbal warning and that I was not in any sort of the trouble at the time, to "just leave it at home". He said that the cops were so impressed at how respectful and open I was with them and that they really appreciated that.
Bottom Line: I need to find some off campus parking!
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Great News!

Looks like things haven't changed all that much for some things.:banana:

I find it interesting that a college that offers courses to help you get a Concealed handgun here in Virginia would reprimand/counsel/ or suspend somebody for obtaining a carry permit and then exercising their right.

http://www.nvcc.edu/schedule/crs2112/course_detail.asp?indexno=15362

Wow, sounds like they used good old fashion common sense in this case.:idea:

Nova_gts said:

Just wanted to say thanks guys for all the helpful advice.
I decided to go in yesterday to go in and feel it out - I had a pretty good feeling about things because the police did not even mention anything of this sort to me when I was stopped.
The short of the story is I met with the Judicial counselor (not sure if that's his exact title) and he said he needed to call me in to give me a verbal warning and that I was not in any sort of the trouble at the time, to "just leave it at home". He said that the cops were so impressed at how respectful and open I was with them and that they really appreciated that.
Bottom Line: I need to find some off campus parking!
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Lucky SOB! haha

CRF250rider1000 said:

Lucky SOB! haha

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Aye. This is great to hear.

rob99vmi04 said:

I find it interesting that a college that offers courses to help you get a Concealed handgun here in Virginia would reprimand/counsel/ or suspend somebody for obtaining a carry permit and then exercising their right.

http://www.nvcc.edu/schedule/crs2112/course_detail.asp?indexno=15362

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I love how they add at the bottom of the course description

No ammunition or firearms are allowed on campus.

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We'll teach you about guns and how to handle them but you have to keep them away from us sheep.

Welcome to OpenCarry.org Nova_gts!

Happy to hear the great news!

Well, Peter, I'm very glad that I can admit that I was wrong. I'm extremely happy that this turned out ok.

Thanks to nova for the link, here it is if you want info on this case> http://www.virginia1774.org/GMULawsuit.html

thank YOU for posting the link again which made me click on it and actually see there was an update!

Oral arguments Nov. 1 VA Supreme court! :banana:

Just think....had he said *nothing*, it would not have been an issue.

You are **NOT** legally obligated to disclose to a LEO you have a firearm. I would have just taken the ticket.

**NOTE: Thanks to nova for pointing that out...typed too fast...but that is what I meant....

SIGguy229 said:

Just think....had he said *nothing*, it would not have been an issue.

You are you legally obligated to disclose to a LEO you have a firearm. I would have just taken the ticket.

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did you mean to say "not" legally obligated?

One must produce their CHP if asked by a LEO but one does not have to voluntarily inform the LEO if they're carrying or not.

SIGguy229 said:

You are not you legally obligated to disclose to a LEO you have a firearm. I would have just taken the ticket.

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I agree ;-)

nova said:

One must produce their CHP if asked by a LEO but one does not have to voluntarily inform the LEO if they're carrying or not.

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Just to clarify, when the officer runs you in his computer it will show that you have a CHP. If he asks for it you must produce it but as nova said you do not have to inform him that you are in fact carrying, only that you have your CHP on you.

CRF250rider1000 said:

Just to clarify, when the officer runs you in his computer it will show that you have a CHP. If he asks for it you must produce it but as nova said you do not have to inform him that you are in fact carrying, only that you have your CHP on you.

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We went round-and-round with this a few months ago. The current state of the law is a Catch-22. You are not required to display your CHP unless you are carrying a concealed handgun. No law requires you to divulge the fact that you are carrying a concealed handgun.

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