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    Florida sees rise in justifiable homicide ..." MJS Vilmetti comments on WI gun law

    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/105215084.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Vilmetti
    The executive director of the Florida Coalition to Stop Gun Violence told the TImes the law has turned Florida into the Wild West. "What in the hell is our state government doing passing a law encouraging our citizens to solve disputes with guns?" he told the paper. "This is the right-to-commit-murder law."
    Don't miss the standard comments from the usual suspects.
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    Originally Posted by Vilmetti
    The executive director of the Florida Coalition to Stop Gun Violence told the TImes the law has turned Florida into the Wild West. "What in the hell is our state government doing passing a law encouraging our citizens to solve disputes with guns?" he told the paper. "This is the right-to-commit-murder law."
    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
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    Don't miss the standard comments from the usual suspects.
    Florida Coalition to Stop Gun Violence would rather you be dead or in jail than "justified."
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    Thanks for the acknowledgement of our righteous faith.

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    Just think of the money that Florida has saved by not supporting these scum bags for decades. And think of all of those daughters of liberals and regular people that are now saf(er). My hat is off to the GOOD people of Florida.
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    WOW they know it is coming and are trotting out all the old stand by arguments already. Next thing they will be writing about is the police chief's association saying they would have to treat everyone as if they are armed during all traffic stops or some other such nonsense.
    I had to change my signature because you know who got upset about it.

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    "Stand your ground" sounds just like what Wisconsin needs. broader then the Castle Doctrine and offers the carrier protection under the law for defending themselves inside their vehicle or in public. Works for me!
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    We can only wish things were as violent as in the "Wild West". Some people watched toomany B Western when they were growing up.

    The Wild West of Myth and Reality
    The American Wild West has been immortalized in song and story. But just how wild was the Wild West?

    By Earl Hunsinger

    The Wild West the very expression conjures up images of stagecoaches and bat-wing door saloons, and of men facing each other in a dusty, tumble weed strewn street, ready to draw their guns and shoot it out. But just how wild was the Wild West?



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    Remind me not to mug people in Florida.
    Nice to see that the good people of that state are standing up and telling the BGs "no".

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    Thumbs up I Love Florida's Castle Doctrine!

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    Remind me not to mug people in Florida.
    Nice to see that the good people of that state are standing up and telling the BGs "no".
    I lived in Florida when the law was passed and when it went into effect. Oh, it was great! The criminals also keep up with what is happening and pay attention to these things. Every state should have the Florida Castle Doctrine as law!

    On 1 October, 2005 the People of Florida had the right to protect themselves WHEREVER THEY HAD THE LEGAL RIGHT TO BE and they could not be charged with a crime (if they were protecting themselves) OR (and this is VERY important) be taken to civil court by ANYONE. Now that is GREAT! Also, did you guys (and gals) know that Florida also has a law FORBIDDING the registration of ANY firearms? And that if there is a registration scheme of any kind it is a fine of $5 million per violation. Walmart was going to videotape EVERY gun purchase in their stores across the nation (are they doing that now?) which is a defacto "registration" scheme. It would have cost them untold millions in Florida.

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    I am pleased and proud to be a fellow nuke!

    Quote Originally Posted by rcawdor57 View Post
    Also, did you guys (and gals) know that Florida also has a law FORBIDDING the registration of ANY firearms? And that if there is a registration scheme of any kind it is a fine of $5 million per violation. Walmart was going to videotape EVERY gun purchase in their stores across the nation (are they doing that now?) which is a defacto "registration" scheme. It would have cost them untold millions in Florida.
    I am pleased and proud to be a fellow nuke! I did not know that, that Florida statutorily prohibits registration. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    In addition to CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY we demand prohibition of de jure and de facto registration.

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    Thumbs up And We Can Thank Jeb Bush For That!

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    I am pleased and proud to be a fellow nuke! I did not know that, that Florida statutorily prohibits registration. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    In addition to CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY we demand prohibition of de jure and de facto registration.

    I didn't keep up with much politics back then but I do know that Jeb was NOT a "George". Jeb did some things in Florida that were actually honest and "For The People". He signed the "Castle Doctrine" right away as well as the law forbidding "Gun Registration". I also remember him saying no to a state representative who wanted to tax every roll of toilet paper. I remember Jeb saying something to the effect that "We have more important things to do than to tax people for how many rolls of toilet paper they buy". That was a "Mastercard Moment"!

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    Is this it?

    The 2010 Florida Statutes

    Title XLVI
    CRIMES

    Chapter 790
    WEAPONS AND FIREARMS

    View Entire Chapter
    790.336

    Lists, records, or registries to be destroyed.


    Any list, record, or registry maintained or under construction on the effective date of this act shall be destroyed, unless prohibited by law, within 60 calendar days after this act becomes law. Thereafter, failure to destroy any such list, record, or registry may result in prosecution under this act.
    History.


    s. 2, ch. 2004-59.

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    Thumbs up Florida Anti-Gun Registration Statute

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    The 2010 Florida Statutes

    Title XLVI
    CRIMES

    Chapter 790
    WEAPONS AND FIREARMS

    View Entire Chapter
    790.336

    Lists, records, or registries to be destroyed.


    Any list, record, or registry maintained or under construction on the effective date of this act shall be destroyed, unless prohibited by law, within 60 calendar days after this act becomes law. Thereafter, failure to destroy any such list, record, or registry may result in prosecution under this act.
    History.


    s. 2, ch. 2004-59.
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/.../0790.335.html

    Snip: 790.335

    Prohibition of registration of firearms; electronic records.


    There is a lot to this and I believe if you follow the appropriate links in the statute you will find the fines imposed. It has been a long time since I read this (over 3 years) but I DO remember the $5 million dollar fine. I wrote Walmart (this is when I was still in Florida) and informed them that they could be fined $5 million for each "gun registration" they videotaped. Walmart never replied.

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    Oops..I meant "Gun Registration" Law

    I meant to say "Gun Registration" ....sorry!

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    I like the FL laws! Wish they hadn't put in that "unless prohibited by law" phrase... without that, even the ATF couldn't maintain records! Wouldn't that be nice?

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