smellslikemichigan
Campaign Veteran
any lawful purpose covers open carry. self defense is a lawful purpose.
I either don't understand or think this section needs to be changed. An individual without a CPL or otherwise exempted (E.G. a police officer) who transports a pistol in a vehicle to an area where he or she intended to "open carry" may be in violation of MCL 750.227. The way I read that is that O.C. is not considered a "lawful purpose" under MCL 750.231a.
any lawful purpose covers open carry. self defense is a lawful purpose.
any lawful purpose covers open carry. self defense is a lawful purpose.
Mr. Ranson,
I am the author of the Legal Update you you attached to your e-mail. Thank you for taking the time to confirm the validity of the document. It has not been posted on our MSP Legal Update Web site as the document has not been finalized. I will be making a slight change on page two under the MCL 28.425o section to accurately reflect that casino parking lots are included in the pistol free zones. Once approved through my chain of command, it will be assigned a Legal Update number and posted on the internet.
Sincerely,
Sergeant Aimee Maike
Training and Standards Division
Michigan State Police
7426 N. Canal Road
Lansing, MI 48913
(517) 636-6031
It would be my suggestion that once this document is published, we ask one of our friendly legislators in Lansing to submit it to the AG's office for legal review and a "stamp of approval".
However this information is used when training new officers and retraining current ones so it still is a great benefit.
Also the more things like this that are out there from various agencies the less likely it is that police officers will bother a person OCing.
I either don't understand or think this section needs to be changed. An individual without a CPL or otherwise exempted (E.G. a police officer) who transports a pistol in a vehicle to an area where he or she intended to "open carry" may be in violation of MCL 750.227. The way I read that is that O.C. is not considered a "lawful purpose" under MCL 750.231a.
Non-residents may legally possess a firearm more than 30 inches in length in Michigan. In order for a non-resident to possess a pistol in Michigan, he or she must either be licensed his by or her state of residence to carry a concealed pistol or be licensed by his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol. The ownership of property in Michigan does not qualify a non-resident to possess a pistol in Michigan.
I don't have the laws in front of me, nor do I have time to look them up right now, but my understanding is that a non resident license (Utah, Florida, etc...) to carry concealed would qualify a person from, say, Wisconsin to carry the same ways a Michigan resident of a registered handgun can carry.
I can dig up the specifics later, or if someone else can rattle off specifics of why I'm right or wrong in the mean time, that would be good too...
I think that whole paragraph needs to go away, see my changes that I proposed (item #6).
Nope. Michigan says a permit holder must be a resident of the state in order to carry here. Not sure how up to date this map is, but I think its pretty close
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
This is from MSP site-
Non-residents of Michigan wishing to carry a concealed pistol in Michigan:
If you are a non-resident of Michigan with a valid concealed pistol permit from your home state, Michigan will recognize your permit. However, you must carry in conformance with any and all restrictions appearing on the permit. You are subject to Michigan’s concealed pistol law including but not limited to restrictions on where a concealed pistol may be carried. Please review the information provided on this website for further information.
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10957--,00.html
Here is the DRAFT MSP legal update.
Feel free to email suggestions to me and I will bring them up with the Sergeant. That way we are not bombarding from multiple directions.