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    Pilot Refuses Full-Body Scan, Says TSA Doesn’t Make Travel Safer. Another pilot hero

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/10/...-travel-safer/
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    Roberts says he has safety concerns, but called TSA a “make-work” program that doesn’t make travel safer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
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    CNN: Pilot refuses full-body scan, pat down

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/10/20...iref=allsearch
    The TSA said in a statement that "security is not optional" and any person who refuses security screening is not allowed to fly.

    "TSA's responsibility is to keep the traveling public safe and we use an unpredictable variety of security techniques to carry out this mission," the statement said.

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    For crying out loud!

    He's flying the d*mn thing.

    That's like screening the driver of an F-14 or M1 Abrams.
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    Flying the damned thing, he gets there first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    For crying out loud!

    He's flying the d*mn thing.

    That's like screening the driver of an F-14 or M1 Abrams.
    Exactly. TSA: "We cannot afford to risk having a pilot carry a 115 grain bullet aboard a 3,500,000,000 grain airplane. That constitute a clear and present danger to our job security."

    That's 3.5 billion grains, by the way, or about half a million pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    For crying out loud!

    He's flying the d*mn thing.

    That's like screening the driver of an F-14 or M1 Abrams.
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    Exactly. TSA: "We cannot afford to risk having a pilot carry a 115 grain bullet aboard a 3,500,000,000 grain airplane. That constitute a clear and present danger to our job security."

    That's 3.5 billion grains, by the way, or about half a million pounds.
    Now that puts it in proper perspective
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    To paraphrase a pilot I knew. "I don't need a knife to fly this plane into the ground. I'm the pilot." When TSA found a tiny knife in the bottom of his bag. Makes no sense to subject the pilot to TSA checks. All the checks he needed should have been done before he got the job.

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    About a year after TSA launched, they interviewed the head of israeli air security( El al, IIRC), to get his idea on how TSA was doing....

    His response was along the lines of.... 'Israel has a method of preventing hi-jackings, America has a method of ******* off passengers'

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWeenie View Post
    About a year after TSA launched, they interviewed the head of israeli air security( El al, IIRC), to get his idea on how TSA was doing....

    His response was along the lines of.... 'Israel has a method of preventing hi-jackings, America has a method of ******* off passengers'
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWeenie View Post
    'Israel has a method of preventing hi-jackings, America has a method of ******* off passengers'
    And Israel gets the job done for 1/10th the cost, too.
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    A Letter From the Pilot,

    As published on LewRockwell.com


    Pilot to TSA: 'No Groping Me and No Naked Photos'


    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/roberts-m1.1.1.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by END_THE_FED View Post
    A Letter From the Pilot,

    As published on LewRockwell.com


    Pilot to TSA: 'No Groping Me and No Naked Photos'


    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/roberts-m1.1.1.html

    I don't blame the man. His rights were being INTENSELY violated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I don't blame the man. His rights were being INTENSELY violated.

    Your darn right they were.
    The federal government is violating the rights of everyone who is given a choice between being strip searched or groped.

    I don't remember seeing an air-travel exception to the 4th amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    To paraphrase a pilot I knew. "I don't need a knife to fly this plane into the ground. I'm the pilot." When TSA found a tiny knife in the bottom of his bag. Makes no sense to subject the pilot to TSA checks. All the checks he needed should have been done before he got the job.
    This reminds me of an article from "ask the pilot" where they took away a pilots cutlery.

    http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot283/

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    I think the TSA runs most "ZERO-TOLERANCE" (zero common-sense) school policies for our children. Either that or the other way around.

    Let's see... Which came first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    I think the TSA runs most "ZERO-TOLERANCE" (zero common-sense) school policies for our children. Either that or the other way around.

    Let's see... Which came first?

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