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    A visit to the gun board

    Back in August I applied for my CPL. My application was too late for the September gun board but I figured it should go before the board for October board and in fact it was scheduled for the 21st of October.

    I knew there would be a question or two for me. I’ve got a couple things in my past on the record, so I attended the September gun board just to see what kind of questions were asked of others so I could practice on what I was going to say

    A few weeks later, someone had put a post on the forum about how long it took others to get their CPL and I replied with what was happening so far with my application and that I plan on attending the meeting of the gun board on the 21st of October, Asked or not because I just knew a 1981 incident was going to be called in question.

    Someone suggested I not go unless requested by the gun board. Boy am I glad I did not listen to that advice!

    As the meeting started, we were asked our names and if we were on the agenda. As he looked for my application I see him pull it out of the bunch and I see in large RED letters on it READ READ READ. Now I am worried, but how could a misdemeanor from 1981, which according to the law is a 3-year CPL suspension, cause such large and bold red letters to be written on my file. It would take about 1 hour of me biting my nails before I got the answer.

    As I took my oath and sat down in front of the board the prosecutor said to me, I see you have a very extensive criminal record from the state of Indiana attached to your application, its over 10 pages long. Flabbergasted I said NOT ME! I’ve not been in trouble anywhere but in Michigan and that was 30 years ago!

    So began the 20 question game of who are you and are you really you. Once the board was fairly sure that I was not who they had though I was when I sat down, they wanted to see my tattoos on my forearms for final conformation. I have no tats on my forearms the other guy did. Seems that two mothers had sons born on the same day but in different years with the same name. Apparently that was all that was needed to confuse the board a bit on my identity. I knew of him from years ago when I kept getting confused with him on my credit report, but never knew he was a criminal as well.

    Once I was me again, they did ask me about the 1981 incident, but just what lead up to it. The second incident was not listed in the MSP data base, ask me to explain what happened and told me since its not in my criminal record there was no reason to bring it up again, I was not going to argue since both dealt with weapons.

    Had I not shown up to face the board just incase they had questions for me, I would have been delayed an additional month in getting my CPL approved! For me, it worked out in my favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onnie View Post
    Back in August I applied for my CPL. My application was too late for the September gun board but I figured it should go before the board for October board and in fact it was scheduled for the 21st of October.

    I knew there would be a question or two for me. I’ve got a couple things in my past on the record, so I attended the September gun board just to see what kind of questions were asked of others so I could practice on what I was going to say

    A few weeks later, someone had put a post on the forum about how long it took others to get their CPL and I replied with what was happening so far with my application and that I plan on attending the meeting of the gun board on the 21st of October, Asked or not because I just knew a 1981 incident was going to be called in question.

    Someone suggested I not go unless requested by the gun board. Boy am I glad I did not listen to that advice!

    As the meeting started, we were asked our names and if we were on the agenda. As he looked for my application I see him pull it out of the bunch and I see in large RED letters on it READ READ READ. Now I am worried, but how could a misdemeanor from 1981, which according to the law is a 3-year CPL suspension, cause such large and bold red letters to be written on my file. It would take about 1 hour of me biting my nails before I got the answer.

    As I took my oath and sat down in front of the board the prosecutor said to me, I see you have a very extensive criminal record from the state of Indiana attached to your application, its over 10 pages long. Flabbergasted I said NOT ME! I’ve not been in trouble anywhere but in Michigan and that was 30 years ago!

    So began the 20 question game of who are you and are you really you. Once the board was fairly sure that I was not who they had though I was when I sat down, they wanted to see my tattoos on my forearms for final conformation. I have no tats on my forearms the other guy did. Seems that two mothers had sons born on the same day but in different years with the same name. Apparently that was all that was needed to confuse the board a bit on my identity. I knew of him from years ago when I kept getting confused with him on my credit report, but never new he was a criminal as well.

    Once I was me again, they did ask me about the 1981 incident, but just what lead up to it. The second incident was not listed in the MSP data base, ask me to explain what happened and told me since its not in my criminal record there was no reason to bring it up again, I was not going to argue since both dealt with weapons.

    Had I not shown up to face the board just incase they had questions for me, I would have been delayed an additional month in getting my CPL approved! For me, it worked out in my favor.
    Congrats, carrying is a lot easier with a cpl!

    did you get a chance to talk to the prosecutor about the 5 OC complaints = disorderly conduct?

    Are CPL's still the paper type here in monroe or have they switched to the credit card style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    Congrats, carrying is a lot easier with a cpl!

    did you get a chance to talk to the prosecutor about the 5 OC complaints = disorderly conduct?

    Are CPL's still the paper type here in monroe or have they switched to the credit card style?
    I wanted to get the CPL in hand before I started making him pull his hair out. Some time in November Ill go and see if i can get an appointment with him to talk to him face to face, at the meeting today i arrived a hour early he got there 10 minutes before the meeting so there was no talking to him before hand.

    I did not ask to see the neighbors when he and I talked about it, but I will let you know in about 3 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onnie View Post
    I wanted to get the CPL in hand before I started making him pull his hair out. Some time in November I go and see if i can get an appointment with him to talk to him face to face, at the meeting today i arrived a hour early he got there 10 minutes before the meeting so there was no talking to him before hand.

    I did not ask to see the neighbors when he and I talked about it, but I will let you know in about 3 weeks
    I see. I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    did you get a chance to talk to the prosecutor about the 5 OC complaints = disorderly conduct?
    What!?

    Yeah, that makes sense, get a disorderly, lose CPL on 8 year prohibition, = 8 years possible of more OC calls. geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    Congrats, carrying is a lot easier with a cpl!

    did you get a chance to talk to the prosecutor about the 5 OC complaints = disorderly conduct?

    Are CPL's still the paper type here in monroe or have they switched to the credit card style?
    So if me and 4 neighbors complain about a loud stereo or dog at large the police will arrest them for disorderly conduct too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    What!?

    Yeah, that makes sense, get a disorderly, lose CPL on 8 year prohibition, = 8 years possible of more OC calls. geez.
    Quote Originally Posted by budlight View Post
    So if me and 4 neighbors complain about a loud stereo or dog at large the police will arrest them for disorderly conduct too?
    It may be a misunderstanding of what was said, neither of us heard it personally. That's why he was going to talk to him in person. We'll be sure to let everyone know if someone confirms this position.

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    Ok, but I doubt this would stick. As we say around here, it should be asked of them, ... cite please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by budlight View Post
    So if me and 4 neighbors complain about a loud stereo or dog at large the police will arrest them for disorderly conduct too?
    I think in monroe we have laws about a loud stereo and a dog at large so the DC charge might be a second charge if you tork off the LEO!

    I am surprised I never got a DC for driving around in my fushsia colored Escort!
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    Even telling us about driving a fuchsia colored Escort is DISORDERLY CONDUCT... LOL

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    Naw, it is Disturbing the Peace just by moving it (piece of junk, that it)...


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    When is the SOS supposed to take over the CPL system, is this still happeming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    When is the SOS supposed to take over the CPL system, is this still happeming?
    That bill isn't going anywhere just yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Even telling us about driving a fuchsia colored Escort is DISORDERLY CONDUCT... LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by PDinDetroit View Post
    Naw, it is Disturbing the Peace just by moving it (piece of junk, that it)...

    Fellas! Come on now, she WAS one fine car. You guys are just jealous! They do make pink guns just for you two!
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