I have a ton of issues with this prosecution and why you would side with the intruder and not the gun owner devoid of any knowledge shows ignorance on what these so called bill collectors really do. I was hired by a number to serve writs and even accompany them to remove furniture or whatever the rent to own company has there because the Police didn't have man power to be there.
Now let's take a look.
Quote" Nuyen didn't shoot. He says he didn't even point the gun directly at the guy and he says he was just protecting his family."
I am missing this violent encounter you accused him of.
Now someone pounding on my door for 20 minutes is already a serious problem, I have a RIGHT to not answer my door for some jackass who's beating it down. I too have traveled with bill collectors and they have this attitude and I mean nearly all of them. I have walked away from one who when frustrated started kicking the bottom of the door. Now just so you know I used to serve writs and notices and I have yet to act like a fool on someones door frame and 20 minutes? This was the admission of the bill collector! Nothing like being a little abusive and excessive. Beat on my door for 20 minutes and you could have a very angry 245 pound former gym rat beating on your/his skull.
Here is the bill collectors admission and bet me he downplayed how long it was. ""Moore says he continued to knock intermittently for 15 to 20 minutes while Nuyen was upstairs""
I am betting it was not intermittent I am betting he like many bill collectors I have worked with got angry because someone made him wait for more than 3 minutes and started pounding on the door because in his own words he knew they were home, and being ignored in his mind enraged him. How dare they ignore me....
I have had this done to me many times and I show up with a writ and give them 3 minutes to answer and I watch my watch and then I use 3 inch wide masking tape and tape that writ at face level to his/her door and take a photo of it and the door then walk away.
Now let's look deeper. ""My son was sleeping, my daughter was downstairs on the couch sleeping and I was upstairs in the bathroom. She came running upstairs and said someone's trying to break in the door. I immediately grabbed my pistol off the microwave," said Kyle Nuyen."
with the average American spending 20 to 45 minutes in the shower and getting pretty I have no problem with the above statement.
Kyle being assaulted 3 times is believable and anyone who knows that neighborhood can see that as a real possibility.
Now again this intruder claims one thing and the Homeowner claims another so who is telling the truth? Who knows, but one must ask who is the intruder and I find it very weird that bill collectors today still pound on doors. In the countless court writs I have served, None of these collectors have knocked on doors because of the potential dangers involved they usually get a court order or writ which means they show up with others aka the Police or myself.
What we have is a he said she said issue here with a troubling admission ignored by the prosecutor. 20 minutes of beating on anyone's door is excessive, if you doubt this get watch or stop watch and go pound on your own door that long then tell me it isn't bizarre in the least to be knocking that long.
I am again troubled by your biased remarks taking sides when this story obviously has two different people saying two different things.
I took the story to be a little sympathetic with the homeowner by the way the writer presented the facts.
None of us were there but again and again I find the behavior of the rent to won guy troubling and it's my guess the attitude was his as he may have been angered by the fact as he himself stated they didn't answer the door quickly enough, remembering he was the one who complained he had to knock for 20 minutes.
Let's not be so quick to lynch the homeowner and gun owner. The rent to won guys statements make no sense in light of his own statements.
For Now I will let the appeals court decide and this might be a lesson to those who think that being a thug at someones door, isn't a great idea. Bill collector or not.
I read the story quickly so maybe I missed something.
Bill collector knocks or pounds on a guys door for 15 minutes, guy probably knows bill collector is there and after 15 minutes goes to said door with gun and threatens to kill the bill collector?
Why are people defending this guy?
There is no defense of home or family here, just someone pissed off at bill collector who won't stop knocking on the door. Correct thing to do would have been to call law enforcement not threaten the bill collector with deadly force for trespass.
Quotes from article:
"I saw Kyle come up to the door he had a gun in his hand. He pointed it at me and he said if you ever knock on my door again I'm going to put two in your face," said Moore.
Prater says the prosecutor portrayed Nuyen as an angry man who pulled a gun because he didn't want to pay a bill. She say in this case Nuyen would have been better off pulling the trigger.