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    Republican candidate says violent overthrow of government is 'on the table' DallasNew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Broden
    Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden stunned his party Thursday, saying he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if elections did not produce a change in leadership.
    "If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary," Broden said, adding the nation was founded on a violent revolt against Britain's King George III.

    Watson asked if violence would be in option in 2010, under the current government.

    "The option is on the table. I don't think that we should remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms," Broden said, without elaborating. "However, it is not the first option."
    H/T to conservative libertarian Neal Boortz, WSB Atlanta Says "violent overthrow is always on the table."

    Oh, the republicans are the party of Lincoln-16 that destroyed the union to save the Union.
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    Broden on population control, Nazis and revolution


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    If your guy wasn't elected, then by all means, advocate for a violent overthrow of the govt. Works in Africa, why not here? (sarcasm off).

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    Works here too, against King George

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    Works here too, against King George
    The correct word here is "worked" as in 234 years ago. We don't have a king now. We have a democratically elected president. That's how it works now.

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    The Declaration of Independence does not mention, is not limited to overthrow of kings, monarchs or tyrants.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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    I don't believe any of those apply today.

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    "Believe"? "I believe" is deep sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    i don't believe any of those apply today.
    roflol
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    I chose not to live in fear of the govt. Obama hasn't tried to take my guns.

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    None here live in fear of the government, Obaminable or not. We live to resist the government and try to teach and convey the resistance to young people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I chose not to live in fear of the govt. Obama hasn't tried to take my guns.
    Who's advocating fear of the government? And Obama has little to do with it. I was laughing at your statement because most of those conditions DO exist.

    I'm not advocating what the candidate said, nor do I think it's time for such measures but if you don't think our rights have been being usurped for generations now you are sadly living in a dream world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    The correct word here is "worked" as in 234 years ago. We don't have a king now. We have a democratically elected president. That's how it works now.
    Democratically elected? You mean more like lied, cheated and stolen elected President. Wonder how many illegal aliens, dead people, and convict votes were tallied. Sorry but I'm really cynical about the election results here when they caught Acorn having registered that fella like 50+ times to vote.

    And even more cynical when the New Black Panther Party stands outside a voting place with a nightstick. If this election is like 2008 it's going to be a miracle if any conservative candidates get elected into office, then it'll be a miracle if we have another election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I don't believe any of those apply today.
    My friend, those words most certainly do apply: then, now, and forever. There are those within our mist who also claim the Second Amendment does not apply to today's America, but as we all know, nothing could be further from the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    I chose not to live in fear of the govt. Obama hasn't tried to take my guns.
    Well, this is a little backwards. The people should never live in fear of the government... it's the government which should exist in fear of the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    The Declaration of Independence does not mention, is not limited to overthrow of kings, monarchs or tyrants.
    Absolutely correct and the paragraph from the Declaration of Independence which you included outlines the most fundamental principles of our republic and its founding.

    BTW, I don't believe we are close to this point yet and doubt if we will get there in my lifetime. Fortunately the two parties are still at each others' throats enough that they have not yet seen the fruits of joining forces to subjugate the people to the degree where we would need to rise up as our founding generation did in 1775.
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    I believe we have one party masquerading as two. It seems that no matter who is elected, little changes for the better for the vast majority of middle income Americans, and I am below middle income, believe me. I think that the eroding of our rights is continuing and will continue as long as we will tolerate it. I am not for violent overthrow of our government at the present time, but I am wondering what it will take to wake up the rest of the population. Will you wait until they come for your guns? Will you wait until Obamacare is implemented and you find out that they will only pay for so much medical care or that you need an operation that you can't afford? The medical plan under Obamacare was FORCED on us; our representatives sold us out. The vast majority, in a poll, were against government medical care. I know people think that everything will be better and everyone will have medical care. Given their track record in the past decades, why would anyone believe what the government says. I am not against government as a whole, some form of government is necessary and desirable. I am against a tyrannical, controlling government. Please bear in mind we are probably only seeing the tip of the iceberg. If you have any doubt as to their agenda, google "Georgia Guide Stones". When they carve it in stone, you can pretty much believe they are serious.
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    That is precisely Codevilla's point in 'America's Ruling Class - And the Perils of Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    I believe we have one party masquerading as two.
    That is precisely Codevilla's point in 'America's Ruling Class - And the Perils of Revolution' (The American Spectator, July - August 2010). They are the Ruling Class and we are the Country Class. The battle has been lost, maybe the war.

    WOW! I have seen the Georgia Guide Stones, I'll have to reread them.
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    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
    2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
    4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
    9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
    10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
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    One popular hypothesis is that the patron's pseudonym may be a tribute to the legendary 17th-century founder of Rosicrucianism, Christian Rosenkreuz.
    I went to Rosicrucian summerschool at Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis head quarters in San Jose, CA, right around the corner from where I was raised, through elementary school (G00gleEarth 1548 Hedding Street).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    That is precisely Codevilla's point in 'America's Ruling Class - And the Perils of Revolution' (The American Spectator, July - August 2010). They are the Ruling Class and we are the Country Class. The battle has been lost, maybe the war.

    WOW! I have seen the Georgia Guide Stones, I'll have to reread them.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia...s#Inscriptions


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia...stones#History


    I went to Rosicrucian summerschool at Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis head quarters in San Jose, CA, right around the corner from where I was raised, through elementary school (G00gleEarth 1548 Hedding Street).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rosicrucian_Park

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMORC
    Exactly. Look for another type of deadly virus to raise it's ugly head this fall. After all, they did declare a pandemic this spring. They have not "undeclared" it, or declared an all clear. What better way to eliminate a vast amount of people than by a virus that there is no antidote for? See number 1 on the list.

    Number two speaks to eugenics. If you don't know about that, look it up. The Nazis in Germany were starting to implement it with the elevation of the "Ayrian" race, the elimination of anyone with a physical or mental handicap. These policies didn't pop up out of the blue, people. This stuff has been going on for decades behind the scene.

    Do your research. Do not pooh pooh things you aren't acquainted with because they seem "out there". Consider the source, the sources qualifications, read with an open mind. My personal opinion is that it is already too late. Why don't they secure our border with Mexico? We have the manpower and the money. It is a lack of will, they want ALL countries in the world on an equal footing so they have to reduce us to the status of a third world country. What better way to do that than to flood the country with poor people from Mexico? It puts a strain on our social services, leads to increased taxes to pay for those social services, etc. This is just one example, there are undoubtly more. So we don't want Obamacare and they impose it on us anyway, we WANT our southern border secured and they won't do it; does anyone else see a trend here?
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    Now, for the rest of the list:

    4. Rule passion, faith, tradition, etc. Notice that first word, "Rule". Does that sound like democracy?!?

    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. What if you don't want protection? Whose fair laws and just courts? Who decides if the laws are fair? Who decides if the courts are just?

    6. Let all nations rule internally.... Notice the word "let". To allow; you will have to be granted permission to "rule" your own country.

    I think you can probably figure the rest out for yourselves. You may think all of this is garbage and that is certainly your right. Most people in this country have been brainwashed for decades via TV, movies, and the internet. And yes, there is plenty of garbage out there as well. Everyone will have to make up their own minds and do what they think is best.
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    Just throwing a little gasoline on the OT thread here...

    Has anyone ever questioned why The Secret Service, a branch of the Treasury, is tasked with protecting the president? One would think that, like most other countries, the President would be protected by a military guard, not a fiscal one. O_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    I went to Rosicrucian summerschool at Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis head quarters in San Jose, CA, right around the corner from where I was raised, through elementary school.
    And...What did you learn, Doug? Pray tell.

    Yes, I heard, saw, and read the rest - I'm not a stupe. But we'd love to hear the rest of your story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbinator View Post
    Just throwing a little gasoline on the OT thread here...

    Has anyone ever questioned why The Secret Service, a branch of the Treasury, is tasked with protecting the president? One would think that, like most other countries, the President would be protected by a military guard, not a fiscal one. O_o
    Having worked with them extensively, it's simply because their charter with respect to our national treasury at the time involved extenstive law enforcement methods hithero-unknown, and quite beyond previously and contemporarily known methods, so...

    ...they were chosen.

    Having worked with them on several occasions, I can reveal to you that the U.S. Secret Service can "handle the business at hand." Beyond that, I can't reveal much, except they do their job with aplompb.

    My hat's off to the lot of them. Good men, all.
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    In retrospect, I realize the answer is obvious. As part of the Treasury (who already has all of the money), a training budget is a non-issue.

    "Hey Bill, I just came up with a weird scenario."

    "Let's train for it."

    "OK!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbinator View Post
    "Hey Bill, I just came up with a weird scenario." "Let's train for it." "OK!"
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