I chose not to live in fear of the govt. Obama hasn't tried to take my guns.
Just wait until second term, when he has nothing to lose. :shocker: The only reason he signed off on the National Park relaxation was to lull us into a false sense of security so that we'd be looking the other way when he, Hillary, and a mostly Democratic Congress/Senate signed off on a UN/EU gun ban treaty remanescent of the hundreds of other "oh, let's embrace peace!" arms bannings which have occurred throughout history immediately prior to the establishment of a totalitarian regime and its accompanying squash on both civil and human rights.
I don't believe any of those apply today.
Your response was to
Huffman's quote from the Declaration of Independance, so I have to ask you whether you honestly believe that none of the provisions contained therein apply today? If not, why did our Founding Fathers simply not burn the Declaration of Independence after they drafted and the 13 original colonies ratified our Constitution?
I submit you should re-read a bit of history, before re-reading the Declaration of Independence in full.
The correct word here is "worked" as in 234 years ago. We don't have a king now. We have a democratically elected president. That's how it works now.
Yes, it does! And were you aware that none of our Founding Fathers ever considered our Constitution to overrule or render inviolate the principles laid forth in their Declaration of Independance? That the very reason many of them spoke of our new nation as a "great experiment" was because they weren't sure if it'd work or not, and they were all prepared to throw in the towel, if need be, and try again?
They knew something to be very true when they wrote, "of the people, by the people, and for the people." They knew that there could never be an overthrow of the government, provided the citizens of our great nation never forgot that
we are the government.
Broden is grandstanding, shooting his mouth off. Nevertheless, when he said, "We have a constitutional remedy. And the Framers say if that don't work, revolution," he was correct. That's precisely what the Framers said.
But let's take another look at
Doug Huffman's quote from the Declaration of Independance. Does it speak of any "violent overthrow?"
No. It simply says to "alter or abolish" a destructive government which has become destructive to the inalienable rights of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Our Founding Fathers had enough wisdom and forsight to include the means of altering the Constitution they drafted. Whether or not they had enough foresight to envision that many and varied ways their original "limited government" would discover or create every little nook and cranny possible to build itself into a massive government remains a part of this "Experiment" we call the United States of America.
So, regardless of what Broden is calling for, our own Founding Fathers laid the groundwork for the "alter or abolish" of our government, the first in both the Declaration of Independance and our Constitution, and the latter only in our Declaration of Independance.
Put simply, I imagine they simply figured that if things got that bad, we'd be headed towards a new and better Constitution, anyway.
Please DO beware, people, of wolves in sheeps' clothing! By that I mean folks coming to you claiming we can "make things better" simply by doing away with the old Constitution and making a newer, better, shinier, brighter, more up-to-date one.
Phooey! Our Constitution has served us rather well these last 234 years, and provided we respect her, as well as adhere to our Founding Fathers' goal towards limited government, she'll continue to serve us well hundreds of years into the future!
It's only when a government outgrows its britches, gets too uppity in attitude, particularly when combined with a lack of governmental experience, too little fiscal oversight/restraint, and too much ignorance among the general populace, that it becomes ripe for an altering, commensurate with our Constitution.
Let us all hope and pray that's as far as any of us ever see it goes, either in our lifetimes, or in those all the way down to our great(x10) grandchildren.
But take yee heed those of you whom have either been elected or appointed to our government: Our Founding Fathers had a breaking point, as do We the People. Let's not go there. And
STOP "pushing the edge (envelope)" like some Hollywood fighter jock who's yet to learn self-discipline.
We see right through that s... .
Bottom line: The Rule of Law in our country, all the way up to and including the Law of the Land, our Constitution, allows for alteration. Beware of those who'd alter it for their gain at our demise! But also, if all other avenues of redress have been exhausted, be willing to take the next step, thrice espoused, endorsed, and enacted by our Founding Fathers. I submit it need not be towards any "overthrow," but rather, for a "restoration" commensurate with the provisions contained in our Constitution.
Even then, should that ever become necessary, God Help Us.
