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    law enforcement school teaching wrong info.

    My son came home and told me his law enforcement teacher (WJ police officer) told him that it is against the law for a concealled carry holder to carry in a school and the principle said the same.
    this is obviously wrong, what are all your thoughts about this.

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    Is it POSSIBLE that your son MISHEARD or MISUNDERSTOOD the instructors?

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    No, he was told that he (the officer) would arrest anyone with a firearm in the school that you cannot be in a school with a firearm even with a permit.

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    This is incorrect, and is a Blatant Violation of Utah Law.

    Utah Law states:
    76-10-505.5. Possession of a...Firearm..., on or about School Premises..., Penalties.
    (1) A Person may not possess any Firearm..., as th[at] term [is] defined in Section 76-10-501, at a place that the person knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is on or about School Premises as defined in Subsection 76-3-203.2(1).
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    (b) Possession of a Firearm...,on or about School Premises is a class A misdemeanor.
    (3) This Section does not apply if:
    (a) The Person is Authorized to Possess a Firearm as provided under Section 53-5-704, 53-5-705, 76-10-511, or 76-10-523, or as otherwise Authorized by Law.

    Both Utah State Law 76-10-523 AND Federal Law 18 U.S.C 922(q)(2)(B)(ii) exempt Utah Permit holders from 'School Zone Firearm-Free Zones' throughout Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aadvark View Post
    This is incorrect, and is a Blatant Violation of Utah Law.

    Utah Law states:
    76-10-505.5. Possession of a...Firearm..., on or about School Premises..., Penalties.
    (1) A Person may not possess any Firearm..., as th[at] term [is] defined in Section 76-10-501, at a place that the person knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is on or about School Premises as defined in Subsection 76-3-203.2(1).
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    (b) Possession of a Firearm...,on or about School Premises is a class A misdemeanor.
    (3) This Section does not apply if:
    (a) The Person is Authorized to Possess a Firearm as provided under Section 53-5-704, 53-5-705, 76-10-511, or 76-10-523, or as otherwise Authorized by Law.


    Both Utah State Law 76-10-523 AND Federal Law 18 U.S.C 922(q)(2)(B)(ii) exempt Utah Permit holders from 'School Zone Firearm-Free Zones' throughout Utah.
    Just for completeness... and not to reflect negatively upon Aadvark in any way.

    Utah laws Section 53-5-704 and 53-5-705 are Utah's Concealed carry statutes. 704 is the 5 year permit and 705 is the temporary EMERGENCY permit section. Utah's Concealed carry statutes ALLOW those with a permit to conceal BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE CONCEALMENT!
    Section 76-10-523 Specifies WHO IS EXEMPT FROM FIREARMS LAWS, includes Concealed carry permit holders and JUDGES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, and others.
    Section 76-10-511 absolutely specifies that one may possess a loaded firearm in the residence OR TEMPORARY ABODE (like a tent if camping).

    Section 76-10-505 allows ANYONE age 18 or older who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm and in legal possession of a vehicle or with permission of the vehicle owner (if a passenger and not driver) to possess a loaded handgun either concealed or openly WHILE IN THE VEHICLE.

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    Please have that Office arrest me

    Quote Originally Posted by kdt1970 View Post
    No, he was told that he (the officer) would arrest anyone with a firearm in the school that you cannot be in a school with a firearm even with a permit.
    I carry at my Son's school, come arrest me please.
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    I've carried in many schools, including SLCC with my Congressman, who was likely also armed.

    Come arrest me too, Mr. West Jordan OEO. :P
    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. Heinlein

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    I've PM'ed the OP asking for some additional details so that I can better help to correct this situation.

    Please check your PMs and respond to me as soon as possible.

    Thanks

    Charles

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    Pm Replied too.
    I will talk to my son more and get more details later this evening.

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    Ok, I havenít received an email back yet but, they figured out who it was (my son)(not to hard) and apologized to my son for giving him wrong information.

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