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    Looking For Opinions On This 1911

    Hey all,

    I've been considering the acquisition of a 1911 for some time and I believe I've finally decided on a make and model, the Springfield 1911-A1 Loaded PI9132LP.
    http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=24

    I was hoping to get some feedback on it. So, what do y'all think about it and what is a fair price for it?

    Thanks for the help!


    ***EDIT: It seems that I have been corrected on my choice. The original 1911 above has the adjustable range sights. The following is better suited for daily carry: PX9151LP
    http://springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=3

    Any opinions on this 1911?
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    That model looks almost identical to mine except it has adjustable sites instead of my 3dot. I have the PX9151LP. Read a thread I started which talks about it and a Colt I picked up.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...-1911-research

    When push comes to shove it is a good gun. I love the finish on the gun but the Cocabolo grips look orange to me rather than dark reddish in the picture.

    I prefer the GI guide rod over full length ones for ease of maintenance and swapped out mine with a new spring and springcap. I also prefer the 3-dot sites but thats just me. :-)

    I see some on GunBroker.com and the cheapest around $870. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=196656673

    I consider my Colt to be better quality but more expensive. If I could just merge my Colt and Springfield into one gun it would be the perfect 1911 for me.

    Springfield has a good name and I am sure you will be happy with it.

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    Thanks for the info 45acpForMe.

    Does anyone else have anything to say about this particular 1911?
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    It's a good gun but those sights are more for range duty than carry duty. Get the same one with carry sights and you are good.

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    If I was looking for a 1911A1 type pistol, I would give that one very serious consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    It's a good gun but those sights are more for range duty than carry duty. Get the same one with carry sights and you are good.
    For clarification, would the PX9151LP be the one you are talking about?
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    Yep.

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    Cool, thanks for the insight. I would have missed that if you hadn't pointed it out. That's why I'm checking with everyone here before I go buy one.
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    It's one of the best for the money.

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    There is nothing wrong with going with springfield but you should consider colt too.

    The price difference can be negligable if you shop around.

    Here is a very similar model to the Springfield and a decent price on gunbroker.

    http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/tabi...2/Default.aspx model O1070XSE Government

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=196939431

    There is also a commander version which is just a shorter barrel version which is easier for concealment. I only have government versions 5" but admit sometimes a 4.25 barrel would make it easier to conceal. Since I OC mine concealment isn't that big a deal.

    The Colt gives you 8+1 rather than 7+1 in the same size magazine!

    Do buy what "you" want and enjoy it. Almost any 1911 will do you right so it is hard to make a mistake. There are little things like ambi-thumb-safety, hammer shape, guide rod length, etc that you learn what you like over time. The good news is that on a 1911 platform you can customize and swap parts out. There are some things that might not work on "a" particular 1911 though. For example my Colt can use the Springfield mags but the Sprinfield can't use the Colt mags. Go figure?
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    I've used Colt mags in my Springer for over 20 years w/o a problem. While I'm at it... target sights are worthless for a carry gun. IMHO... range habits do not transfer well to combat shooting, which is pretty much point and click. I practice this one-handed, as this is what the gun was designed to do in '1911'. 'Train like you'll fight' is still a valid axiom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonora Rebel View Post
    I've used Colt mags in my Springer for over 20 years w/o a problem. While I'm at it... target sights are worthless for a carry gun. IMHO... range habits do not transfer well to combat shooting, which is pretty much point and click. I practice this one-handed, as this is what the gun was designed to do in '1911'. 'Train like you'll fight' is still a valid axiom.
    I generally agree, being a point shooting advocate. But for the more rare instances of more time with a need for aimed fire, I suggest XS Express Big Dot sights. If you're going to aim, it may as well be easy to do fast.
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    I'm planning on heading to my local range tomorrow. I'm going to see if they have the SA for rent. I'd like to get some range time in with it before I buy. Which I think is good advice for anyone looking for a handgun, especially if that person is going to be a new gun owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonora Rebel View Post
    I've used Colt mags in my Springer for over 20 years w/o a problem. While I'm at it... target sights are worthless for a carry gun. IMHO... range habits do not transfer well to combat shooting, which is pretty much point and click. I practice this one-handed, as this is what the gun was designed to do in '1911'. 'Train like you'll fight' is still a valid axiom.
    My "Springer" is identical to yours, except I have the round front sight and the "U.S." grips. I basically bought it because I wanted another 1911 and I didn't want to buy a specialized firearm with all the do-dads at the time of purchase. It is the one I am O.C.ing right now, simply because I have a convenient open top zytel paddle holster for it. If I had my druthers, I'd be carrying my old friend the full sized HK USP .40, because it has the ability to be unloaded and loaded with the safety "ON". The 1911 doesn't, but I'll be sure to be careful and use best practices when doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TromixSaiga59 View Post
    ..... If I had my druthers, I'd be carrying my old friend the full sized HK USP .40, because it has the ability to be unloaded and loaded with the safety "ON". The 1911 doesn't, but I'll be sure to be careful and use best practices when doing so.
    I love my USP in 45acp at 12+1 it has more capacity than my Springfield. My USP has become my daily utility carry gun. I also like that you can rack the slide, chamber/unchamber a round while the safety is on. About the only improvement would be night sites.

    I also have a Para Big Hawg at 15+1 and a FNH FNP-45 at 15+1. Both are great guns but the Para needs more testing and the FNP-45 needs a SERPA (that doesn't exist for it yet). I am all for high capacity 45acp guns!

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    Used to own a full size stainless model Springfield, great gun.

    I now own a full size loaded model Springfield. I use Wilson Combat 8 round mags in it and it runs great.

    Just bought a Hk USP .45 Tactical last week, still haven't shot it yet

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    They're great guns but I'd see if you could get on with frontstrap checkering. I have that on all of mine and I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlockMeisterG21 View Post
    They're great guns but I'd see if you could get on with frontstrap checkering. I have that on all of mine and I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    I'm attempting a coup. Not against our government (I swore an oath long ago not to do so), merely against the idiots thereof.
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    “The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair.” — Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    I'm attempting a coup. Not against our government (I swore an oath long ago not to do so), merely against the idiots thereof.


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    This is mine - a Springfield G.I. with Novak sights, a lower/flared ejection port, the Defense Package, a trigger job, and a match barrel bushing, all done by the Springfield Custom Shop. Total cost was $970, and it's a tack driver:



    I really like Springfield's stuff (I have one of their XD40's as well).

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    I have that exact model (PI9132LP) and I love it. I carry it frequently. I have made three modifications.
    1. I replaced the two-piece FLGR with a GI style so I wouldn't need a tool to field strip it.
    2. I had the ambidextrous safety replaced with a single side because in certain instances, the safety would get knocked off without my knowledge, usually from sitting in certain hard-back chairs at restaurants and such.
    3. I modified the rear target sight by grinding with a dremel to reduce the sight catching on my hand during clearance drills and fast reload drills.

    I like the target sights, although with my older eyes I do paint the front sight a bright green so I can pick it up faster. There are low profile target sights available but I just don't see the need.

    It has fed everything I fired through it. I carry Winchester Ranger T 230gr +P. I've also carried Remington Golden Saber in 185gr +P and 230 gr. I have fed it all kinds of FMJ and currently hand load 200 gr lead semi-wad cutters. The pistol is more accurate with all of them then I will ever be.

    The only malfunctions I have had were three failures to return to battery in the first 100 rounds. It's been flawless since then and I have almost 3000 rounds through it. I use the factory mags and Wilson Combat 47D 8 rounders with the extended base plate to facilitate reloads.

    I don't know what else to tell you so if you have any questions I can try to answer them. It's a great gun. You won't be sorry.

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    My knowledge of Springfields is only that which I have read. For me, its two major drawbacks are the two piece barrel, and being owned by CZ. However, I can not argue that it has a good rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Reeser View Post
    I have that exact model (PI9132LP) and I love it. I carry it frequently. I have made three modifications.
    1. I replaced the two-piece FLGR with a GI style so I wouldn't need a tool to field strip it.
    2. I had the ambidextrous safety replaced with a single side because in certain instances, the safety would get knocked off without my knowledge, usually from sitting in certain hard-back chairs at restaurants and such.
    3. I modified the rear target sight by grinding with a dremel to reduce the sight catching on my hand during clearance drills and fast reload drills.

    I like the target sights, although with my older eyes I do paint the front sight a bright green so I can pick it up faster. There are low profile target sights available but I just don't see the need.

    It has fed everything I fired through it. I carry Winchester Ranger T 230gr +P. I've also carried Remington Golden Saber in 185gr +P and 230 gr. I have fed it all kinds of FMJ and currently hand load 200 gr lead semi-wad cutters. The pistol is more accurate with all of them then I will ever be.

    The only malfunctions I have had were three failures to return to battery in the first 100 rounds. It's been flawless since then and I have almost 3000 rounds through it. I use the factory mags and Wilson Combat 47D 8 rounders with the extended base plate to facilitate reloads.

    I don't know what else to tell you so if you have any questions I can try to answer them. It's a great gun. You won't be sorry.
    So you use +P ammo in your 1911? I was under the impression that it wasn't safe for that. As per SA's 1911 manual. No problems?
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    I have a Colt 1911 and a Springfield 1911. I carry the Springfield Micro-Compact .45 everyday. Springfield make a hellova 1911. You can't go wrong with it.

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