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    Man who shot sea lion to spend 30 days in jail

    The North Highlands man convicted of shooting a sea lion in the Sacramento River was sentenced to jail Friday morning in Sutter County.
    Larry Allen Legans was sentenced to 30 days in jail, five years of probation and ordered to pay restitution of $51,081 for injuring the sea lion that came to be known as Sgt. Nevis.

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    I am by no means justifying this shooting at all, but this article is totally scant on details. It doesn't say anything about why the shooting took place - was he under attack or was it just to harm the animal? Did the man provoke it? Sea Lions can be very aggressive and there are numerous documented attacks.. Below is one example from a month ago...

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225914033716

    I went to an Alaska Fish and Game office once and saw a skull of a large, male Sea Lion on display. It looked like it could have been mistaken for a Sabre Tooth Tiger - it was ridiculous.
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    Looks like he had no legitimate cause to shoot.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/12/29/242...lated_articles

    ETA: Check out the photo here. Was this really necessary?

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/11/22/234...-shooting.html
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    correct this story just covers the penalty for the man's actions.. He reportedly shot the animal because he was "tired of sea lions taking his fish." There was no attack against the fisherman, he was just jealous i guess. Getting angry and shooting a protected species with a shotgun on the river.

    if you google sea lion shot, you'll come up with several different articles on the original incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sultan62 View Post
    Looks like he had no legitimate cause to shoot.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/12/29/242...lated_articles

    ETA: Check out the photo here. Was this really necessary?

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/11/22/234...-shooting.html
    Yeah, it appears as if he didn't have any justification at all and he deserves to answer for his crime. However, you were right to paste the link to that photo... What is the law enforcement raid all about? Seems a little over-the-top to me..
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    lol.....dpt of F&G is serious business, especially when it comes to protected animals. /sarcasm

    From initial reports the guy may have been off his rocker. They knew he was armed and that he was able and willing to shoot a defenseless creature, so what would he do to armed cops? [its a stretch, but thats all i can think of]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coded-Dude View Post
    correct this story just covers the penalty for the man's actions.. He reportedly shot the animal because he was "tired of sea lions taking his fish." There was no attack against the fisherman, he was just jealous i guess. Getting angry and shooting a protected species with a shotgun on the river.

    if you google sea lion shot, you'll come up with several different articles on the original incident.
    You sure the sea lion wasn't stealing his fish that he caught?

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    lol, you mean the sea lion was grabbing his fish off the hook while he was reeling them in? I'm sure that has happened plenty of times on the river. Is that any reason to put some shotgun shells into the head of an innocent "protected" animal? If so I am going fishing(cough *bear hunting* cough) in Yosemite very soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coded-Dude View Post
    lol, you mean the sea lion was grabbing his fish off the hook while he was reeling them in? I'm sure that has happened plenty of times on the river. Is that any reason to put some shotgun shells into the head of an innocent "protected" animal? If so I am going fishing(cough *bear hunting* cough) in Yosemite very soon!
    I mean out of the boat. And yeah, if I were trying to fish and everytime I caught one, this animal, whether 'protected' or not, kept stealing it whether on the line or in the boat, I'd be mighty tempted to shoot it too.

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    Seals are as bad as wolves, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carracer View Post
    Seals are as bad as wolves, imho.
    they are worse!!!
    they are in NO WAY endangered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    they are worse!!!
    they are in NO WAY endangered.
    Well, they certainly aren't endangered in Alaska. The Natives shoot and eat them all the time. I tried it, but to me they taste nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sultan62 View Post
    Looks like he had no legitimate cause to shoot.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/12/29/242...lated_articles

    ETA: Check out the photo here. Was this really necessary?

    http://www.sacbee.com/2009/11/22/234...-shooting.html
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    I was surfing West Port a few years ago, and one that seemed the size of a VW bug, popped up right next to me checked me out a few minutes before disappearing.

    Over the years of surfing I have seen many sharks of various sorts but that about made me *&^% my wet suit. Some of the seals and sea mammals get very aggressive and territorial.

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    It was a sea lion, not a seal. This particularly animal was a California sea lion: "Their numbers are abundant (188,000 U.S. stock 1995 est.), and the population continues to expand at a rate of approximately 5.0% annually." - Source

    This particular seal is recovering well, and eating 40 lbs of fish a day, so I can well imagine the fisherman was getting a bit ticked off by the seal's taking fish from his nets.

    The fisherman's actions remain wrong, however, as he was in no personal danger from the animal, and the animal is not on any approved hunting list.

    They can certainly be dangerous, however. I've encountered a few while kayaking, as I have dolphins and porpoises, and while I have no trepidation of the latter, sea lions are a bit more "playful," meaning they bumped my kayak twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    It was a sea lion, not a seal. This particularly animal was a California sea lion: "Their numbers are abundant (188,000 U.S. stock 1995 est.), and the population continues to expand at a rate of approximately 5.0% annually." - Source

    This particular seal is recovering well, and eating 40 lbs of fish a day, so I can well imagine the fisherman was getting a bit ticked off by the seal's taking fish from his nets.

    The fisherman's actions remain wrong, however, as he was in no personal danger from the animal, and the animal is not on any approved hunting list.

    They can certainly be dangerous, however. I've encountered a few while kayaking, as I have dolphins and porpoises, and while I have no trepidation of the latter, sea lions are a bit more "playful," meaning they bumped my kayak twice.
    Very well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    Very well put.
    Thanks.

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