Got a speeding ticket? No gun for you in New York!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/23/nyc-proposal-renders-bad-drivers-debtors-unfit-guns/#content

opps, I meant no gun for you.

For about five years South Carolina's State Law Enforcement Division denied gun carry permit renewals for excessive traffic citations during the renewal period. Why renewals and not new issue? Because the enabling statute specified the conditions for new issue - but not for renewals.

THIS is what we will get with statist permitted carry.

What a bunch of bovine excrement! :banghead:

Doug Huffman said:

For about five years South Carolina's State Law Enforcement Division denied gun carry permit renewals for excessive traffic citations during the renewal period. Why renewals and not new issue? Because the enabling statute specified the conditions for new issue - but not for renewals.

THIS is what we will get with statist permitted carry.

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What HE said +1000

Doug Huffman said:

THIS is what we will get with statist permitted carry.

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Rights are not to be confused with ‘Permit’, ‘License’, ‘Privilege’ or ’Allowance’ or other contrivance. Rights cannot be ’purchased’ nor can government legitimately extract fees for the free exercise thereof. Rights are inherent and eternal w/o interference, infringement, impairment or regulation when exercised responsibly by the individual. (You can quote me 'cause I authored it.)

So many people have been conditioned for generations to the idea of permit and license in relation to firearms in some locales that the social attitude of 'requirement' for permission has become lore. The whole idea of 'permision' has become endemic... even among 2A advocates in some areas of the country. 18 USC Gun Control Act of 1968 enumerates prohibited persons, That legislation has been in effect for 42 years and yet ther are still those who are completely ignornant of it. The 2A does not specify or limit mode of carry.

This is a statist contrivance that grew legs in 1976 with Zell Miller (GA). While well intentioned, it laid the groundwork for this entire idea of state permission to bear arms in a prescribed manner. This became lore as the ONLY acceptable and legitimate manner to bear arms in spite of the obvious language and intent of the 2A. Seemingly until recently, the 2A as a right became secondary to the false requirement of permission.

Whatever the government can giveth, the government can taketh away...

I saw this story on foxnews earlier today. What a bunch of #$@#. Do the politicians REALLY think that the american people are so stupid that we don't see them openly stripping citizens of their RIGHTS?

Instead of making up rules for who can own a gun, why don't they spend some time deciding who can be a representative in the senate? Ability to READ the bills, pay taxes, no criminal convictions, no ties to communist or socialist movements, and knowing the difference between a citizen and a foriegn national should be requirements.

Doug Huffman said:

For about five years South Carolina's State Law Enforcement Division denied gun carry permit renewals for excessive traffic citations during the renewal period. Why renewals and not new issue? Because the enabling statute specified the conditions for new issue - but not for renewals.

THIS is what we will get with statist permitted carry.

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Was the statute changed to correct this? What precipitated the correction? I Be curious!

frommycolddeadhands said:

I saw this story on foxnews earlier today. What a bunch of #$@#. Do the politicians REALLY think that the american people are so stupid that we don't see them openly stripping citizens of their RIGHTS?

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In NY, they already have...

Bring it on!

Mr. Gura are you listening?