HankT
State Researcher
"Arguably absent" in a drunk???
Earlier, Doug, you said:
"Being drunk removes the criminal element of intent from § 943.14 ..."
Yer backpeddlin', counselor . . . .
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Armed Homeowner Confronts Intruder in Racine
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"Arguably absent" in a drunk???
Earlier, Doug, you said:
"Being drunk removes the criminal element of intent from § 943.14 ..."
Yer backpeddlin', counselor . . . .
Doug Huffman
Banned
A brief explanation since Henrietta T-troll is a newbie to this forum version
A brief explanation since Hank T is a newbie to this forum version.
Settings | My Settings | My Account | Edit Ignore List works really well, even bringing Tukhus Petard to heel.
You two can chat between yourselves without me because you have joined my Ignore List of thirteen now of similar character. Putting me on your iggy-list will save you a lot of frustration.
A brief explanation since Hank T is a newbie to this forum version.
Settings | My Settings | My Account | Edit Ignore List works really well, even bringing Tukhus Petard to heel.
You two can chat between yourselves without me because you have joined my Ignore List of thirteen now of similar character. Putting me on your iggy-list will save you a lot of frustration.
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MKEgal
Regular Member
Since a private home is almost never "open to the general public", that doesn't apply.
As someone else pointed out, my leaving my front door open so the cats can watch the front door channel on big-screen kitty TV is in no way an invitation to anyone walking by to come on in. (Not that they could anyway, at least without some struggle, since the storm door is locked.)
Doug Huffman
Banned
Don't confuse subject and predicate. The subject is "a place" and the predicate is "open". Home and almost aren't mentioned.
HankT
State Researcher
So, uhm, do you believe that Singstock will be found not guilty of this charge, counselor?
Uhm, again, er, you wouldn't happen to be a . . . betting man, now woudja, Master Doug?
oak1971
Regular Member
Enlighten us please... At what point does one become so intoxicated that they are no longer capable of forming intent? Seems highly subjective. Is this your opinion or fact. If fact please cite.
Spartacus
Banned
HankT
State Researcher
I also asked Doug the same pertinent question about his legal opinion.
I'm sure he'll answer it. Positive. After all, someone just yesterday had this to say about Doug:
Ole "helpful Doug" . . . will come through. I just know it!
hardballer
Regular Member
I could use some enlightenment here too.
It was my understanding that trespass occurred at the boundary of the property. Step over the line and you are trespassing. Right?
The door open or closed should be irrelevant. Shouldn't it?
No invite. An open door certainly is not implied consent in my mind but perhaps in black law it is. Who knew?
I mean, really, how many here would enter a home of which they did not know the owner, open door or not?
It was my understanding that trespass occurred at the boundary of the property. Step over the line and you are trespassing. Right?
The door open or closed should be irrelevant. Shouldn't it?
No invite. An open door certainly is not implied consent in my mind but perhaps in black law it is. Who knew?
I mean, really, how many here would enter a home of which they did not know the owner, open door or not?
paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
I am not Doug and I do not know his particular reasoning, however, someone knowingly getting drunk and then driving and then hitting someone and causing their death is usually charged with involuntary manslaughter, so, if you take the car out of the equation, it could be argued that a drunk person cannot have intent.
oak1971
Regular Member
I can see how it could be rationalized, but it seems a stretch, or an easy excuse for bad behavior.
JerryD
Regular Member
People use being drunk or high as an excuse for bad behaviour all the time sometimes it works for them but thankfully it does not work all the time.
HankT
State Researcher
So, Paul, do you agree then with Doug's legal opinion that in this case, Singstock's "being drunk removes the criminal element of intent from § 943.14?"
Or does your opinion not go quite that far for the subject incident?
J.Gleason
Banned
And Ole Hank Troll will continue to ride in the Chariot of the Spartan disrupting every thread he comes across with his negativity in an effort to amuse himself, which I might add doesn't take much.
By the way Hank Troll, remember all the times you complained to John and Mike about Doug harassing you? But now it is OK for you to do the same right?
You cliam to be a "State Researcher," then act like one and start posting some facts instead of this hogwash you always seem to come up with. Or maybe your only a researcher for impression purposes only.
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paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
I don't quite go that far. I believe WI is screwed up enough that being drunk removes responsibility for a crime committed while drunk in some situations. They don't take into account that people don't 'accidentally' get drunk. It is usually a willful act.
Don't get me started.
Are these words for, "Someone give me a beer" to relax from the stressful conversation? :lol:
Doug Huffman
Banned
Surprisingly no one has ever claimed 'credit' for my membership status being changed from 'state researcher' to regular guy.
If you click on the lusername and then 'View Forum Posts' you can view all of the lusers posts on the OCDO forum. You'll be hard pressed to find a new thread topic by abusers.
Master Doug Huffman
Banned
Thought I'd drop by and say Hi. For no nefarious purpose of course.
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HankT
State Researcher
J.Gleason said:
No.
J.Gleason
Banned
Go figure