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    Bellingham Municipal Court to start following state law.

    So I have been pushing the issue and showed up for court last month sans I.D.

    Don't worry I had a back up plan in case they refused, advice from a lawyer was not to
    miss this one.

    I have been the sore spot for them though they pretty much told me they don't care what state law was they have their procedure. But because I had no I.D. I asked what do I do and who do I sue if I got arrested for missing my court date. The lady at the desk called the a city attorney. They took my costco card for I.D., otherwise I would have had to use my back up plan. ( I didn't drive to court ). They also have lock boxes but don't give you the key, they also had no method of giving you a receipt or anything to prove you had a firearm in their lock boxes, I made her print me out something.

    So I asked what the lawyers name was and the phone number since I showed up very early.

    I called the lawyer and informed the lawyer that next time I will not even have my wallet on my next court date, and that the state law states that I am supposed to get the key, or they designate a person to accept firearm. I also informed her though that the court house is liable for anything that happens to the firearm while in their possession. She told me she would review it and discuss it with Linda Stork ( the head honcho in the court house). I informed her I had already tried this route in the past and that Linda told me the legal office was supposed to call and discuss it with me which never happened.

    When asked if I can get an e-mail or a phone call on what the decision was she said no. I just have to keep checking back. So last week when I had to go down town to get a Police Complaint form (which they are now refusing to give again ) I walked across the street to ask if they have changed their "procedure", was informed they are moving the lock boxes so they can give firearm owners a key. Still not sure if they will want to see I.D.

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    That's awesome last time I went there I argued with them about it and they told me the same thing but I didn't get there early enough so I just did it their way. Now I'm wondering what they did with my information.

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    Well I took a hard stance and made it well known that I don't like the fact that I am in court for a traffic violation/breaking the law, yet no one is enforcing it when the city breaks the law. I actually asked the prosecutor if it is his job to prosecute those who break laws, he said yes, so I asked why he doesn't prosecute the people in charge of the court house or cops who lie on police reports. ( that is breaking the law too).

    I was very busy last weeks being a very squeaky wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Well I took a hard stance and made it well known that I don't like the fact that I am in court for a traffic violation/breaking the law, yet no one is enforcing it when the city breaks the law. I actually asked the prosecutor if it is his job to prosecute those who break laws, he said yes, so I asked why he doesn't prosecute the people in charge of the court house or cops who lie on police reports. ( that is breaking the law too).

    I was very busy last weeks being a very squeaky wheel.
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    Thanks Gogo, just cuz I haven't been on much don't mean I am not fighting the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Well I took a hard stance and made it well known that I don't like the fact that I am in court for a traffic violation/breaking the law, yet no one is enforcing it when the city breaks the law. I actually asked the prosecutor if it is his job to prosecute those who break laws, he said yes, so I asked why he doesn't prosecute the people in charge of the court house or cops who lie on police reports. ( that is breaking the law too).

    I was very busy last weeks being a very squeaky wheel.
    Was that Dave McEachran?

    BTW: Definition:

    A prosecuting attorney is a legal professional employed by the government whose primary responsibility is developing and prosecuting cases against individuals or entities accused of committing crimes.
    So one could argue that as a government employee they are tasked with prosecuting people that the government requests they prosecute, rather than having much individual initiative.
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    It wasn't McEachran, it was the city Proscecutor, I asked him if it was his job to prosecute crimes he said yes, so I then asked what about when the police commit crimes, his reply was he didn't know and he has never prosecuted a police officer. I asked him how I would go about pressing charges then, he had no answer. I asked some straight forward questions he pushed them off as he can't give legal advise. He looked shocked I knew about Brady vs. Maryland which points out that it is illegal for police to lie or be misleading on police reports, and he did not want to discuss that.

    I have come to the conclusion City Prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute people who basically they work with.

    I talked to sheriff's department they said if it is something blatant like dealing drugs or theft, yes they would arrest (I would hope so) but citizens only other recourse is FBI for going after City Police, he said there has been a few cases back east where the FBI took over whole city departments, he didn't know the cities though and I haven't checked it out to verify that.

    I had my issues with some of McEachran's cases, but the way he handled my native Auntie who was distraught about her cousins murder impressed me, some of the non-native officials (or non officials) sometimes don't quite grasp some of the cultural differences and come off seeming like they don't have respect, he didn't come off that way at all.

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    They Changed Procedure

    Had court the other day. The now take you to a locked area, give you the key, you use the lock box, and go about your business.

    When done you go to the glass booth tell them you need to get your weapon they bring you back you retrieve weapon, give them the key and go on your way.

    No I.D. required!!!!!!!!

    Although I don't like the whole locked door scenario, it is now completely within line of State Law and my desire to not have to carry "papers".
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    I have come to the conclusion City Prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute people who basically they work with.
    Or the ones they work FOR
    "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying I either won't need anymore or more won't help"

    "If you refuse to stand up for others now, who will stand up for you when your time comes?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    Or the ones they work FOR
    That too!!!! , Except if you see them as working for the public they have no problem prosecuting them.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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