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    Red face WCI acts as insanity shield.

    I hopped in my Jeep today to head home for lunch like I do everyday. Got up to the highway entrance which is a double left turn with two left turn lanes. Only one car sitting there at the red light in the inside lane spot so I pull up next to them in the outside lane. Light turns green arrow and we both go, about 3/4 of the way around the corner the lady cuts me off. Just slams over into my lane 2 ft off my front bumper. No signal no mirror check. Then of course slows down when they should be speeding up, it is an on ramp.

    Didn't blow my horn or give her the finger salute just changed lanes into the lane she should have been in and passed her. Apparently she (middle aged white lady with grey shoulder length hair and cardboard boxes to the ceiling of her 10yr old carrolla) took extreme offence at this. She tries to side swipe me as I'm passing. Trying to hog up both lanes as I go past. About 3ft into my lane and 2 inches off my right mirror. Lays on her horn, flips me off and starts to chase me. She has a 10yr old carrolla and was driving 20mph when I passed. I have a v8 and was going 70 as I got on the highway. Took her about 4 miles to catch up to me back in a residential area a few blocks from my house. She's obviously way out of her way by now I live back in a dead end residential area.

    She gets right up on my rear bumper I can see her raging back there gesturing with both hands' basically frothing at the mouth like some rabid loon. I'm keeping a good eye on her at this point thinking great now I am going to have to circle the neighborhood until the cops come and scrape this nutball off my tail, waste of my lunch break. Then she noticed my WCI, NRA, Armed Citizens stickers. Her eyes get real big, her brakes lock up, car turns diagonal in the road, blocking two lanes of traffic and that was that.

    Just wanted to thank WCI, NRA, and AC for my Jeeps plastic insanity shield.

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    Yep. she recognized the bumpersticker-politics.

    So, now she lies, calls the cops, and accuses you of waving a gun while suffering road rage, she rats your license plate. The cops now have a tip, not anonymous, that there is an armed road-rager on the highway. They pull you, a felony stop, at gun point and find the gun that she accused.

    What then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    Yep. she recognized the bumpersticker-politics.

    So, now she lies, calls the cops, and accuses you of waving a gun while suffering road rage, she rats your license plate. The cops now have a tip, not anonymous, that there is an armed road-rager on the highway. They pull you, a felony stop, at gun point and find the gun that she accused.

    What then?
    For those that think Doug's post is ridiculous, I would tell you that his post is EXACTLY what the anti gun people are advocating!

    If somebody starts following my like that, go to the nearest busy store/gas station. Stay in your vehicle and call 911 immediately. Submit their "plate" for harassment, just my thoughts.

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    They would find my cell phone on voice record, and no gun in my jeep. I would register a .00 BAC. I would point them at this post, my sms to my wife and facebook posts about it (android) and the cap ford camera that recorded the intersection and explain calmly my side of the story. I would then demand some sort of follow up against this cardboard hording looneytoon.

    Reminds me to take my ContourHD off my helmet and put it in the jeep. I'm not allowed to carry at work and I do not ride around with one in my car unless I plan to carry it. A vehicle is one of the most insecure spots to store a firearm.

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    Better solution: Swear off bumper stickers that advertise you are armed/may be armed. I'm a NRA member and I got their stickers. Nice, but they don't go on my car for just the reasons you are discussing here.

    Thankfully, we don't have that many looney tunes here in Alabama, but there are a few.

    Y'all have fun up there, you hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFCRetired View Post
    Better solution: Swear off bumper stickers that advertise you are armed/may be armed. I'm a NRA member and I got their stickers. Nice, but they don't go on my car for just the reasons you are discussing here.

    Thankfully, we don't have that many looney tunes here in Alabama, but there are a few.

    Y'all have fun up there, you hear!
    Heh heh heh. If it ain't fun then you aren't doing it right. If ya can't be good then be good at it.

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    I just let it all hang out, bumper stickers, window decals, team decal, country stickers for the countries I've driven in. There's even a county sheriff sticker on there if you looks closely.

    Honestly the worst part about bumper stickers the absolute worst part. Other peoples ideas about your political leanings and the subsequent "discussions' around election days. Feingooldddddd.....

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    Cool dude. So your bumperstickers mean no more than the looneytoon's cardboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    Cool dude. So your bumperstickers mean no more than the looneytoon's cardboard.
    Or your word.

    Honestly can't tell if you're jumping on me for A not having a gun in the car, B not voting the way my stickers say I should, or C being a fan of bumper stickers.

    Well done Doug the rare triple burn..
    Last edited by Vandil; 11-04-2010 at 08:59 AM.

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    If ya can't be good then be good at it! LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by doug huffman View Post
    heh heh heh. If it ain't fun then you aren't doing it right. If ya can't be good then be good at it.
    lol

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    i simply must get my idea of a bumpersticker printed, and put them on my vehicle: Ask me about my gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    i simply must get my idea of a bumpersticker printed, and put them on my vehicle: Ask me about my gun!
    http://www.makestickers.com/

    Eliminate Traffic Congestion
    Legalize Vehicular Weaponry

    Have reordered twice now. Tends to tear when people give me love taps in the parking lot.
    Last edited by Vandil; 11-04-2010 at 09:58 AM.

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    thanks for the link vandil, hey man, you want some field dressings for that belly wound your avitar has? heh-heh. yeah, i can relate this experience; my beloved neighbor- homeland keeps his distance as i am not politically correct. but one morning, while tromping out of the politically correct subdivision i live in, ol homeland's wife got right up on my bumper to check out my Wiscarry sticker. undoubtedly to relay the information to homeland, to target me as a terrorist. Nothing says; up yours, to the left, or politically correct like a wiscarry sticker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    i simply must get my idea of a bumpersticker printed, and put them on my vehicle: Ask me about my gun!
    Unless you are in IL and get pulled over.
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    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Unless you are in IL and get pulled over.
    +1 you got it.

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    I remember years ago reading about a case in Texas where the police searched a car for possible weapons because of an NRA sticker on the window. The judge threw out the search because he said merely having a NRA sticker doesn't provide a reasonable suspicion that there's a gun in the vehicle. He also mentioned that they'd have to pull over half the vehicles in Texas if it did. Ha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandil View Post
    I hopped in my Jeep today to head home for lunch like I do everyday. Got up to the highway entrance which is a double left turn with two left turn lanes. Only one car sitting there at the red light in the inside lane spot so I pull up next to them in the outside lane. Light turns green arrow and we both go, about 3/4 of the way around the corner the lady cuts me off. Just slams over into my lane 2 ft off my front bumper. No signal no mirror check. Then of course slows down when they should be speeding up, it is an on ramp.

    Didn't blow my horn or give her the finger salute just changed lanes into the lane she should have been in and passed her. Apparently she (middle aged white lady with grey shoulder length hair and cardboard boxes to the ceiling of her 10yr old carrolla) took extreme offence at this. She tries to side swipe me as I'm passing. Trying to hog up both lanes as I go past. About 3ft into my lane and 2 inches off my right mirror. Lays on her horn, flips me off and starts to chase me. She has a 10yr old carrolla and was driving 20mph when I passed. I have a v8 and was going 70 as I got on the highway. Took her about 4 miles to catch up to me back in a residential area a few blocks from my house. She's obviously way out of her way by now I live back in a dead end residential area.

    She gets right up on my rear bumper I can see her raging back there gesturing with both hands' basically frothing at the mouth like some rabid loon. I'm keeping a good eye on her at this point thinking great now I am going to have to circle the neighborhood until the cops come and scrape this nutball off my tail, waste of my lunch break. Then she noticed my WCI, NRA, Armed Citizens stickers. Her eyes get real big, her brakes lock up, car turns diagonal in the road, blocking two lanes of traffic and that was that.

    Just wanted to thank WCI, NRA, and AC for my Jeeps plastic insanity shield.

    I think that the responsibility of being armed is what keeps us cool headed during situations like this. We as advocates of open carry take the responsibility serious, and refuse to react emotionally while keeping a level head about ourselves in any situation we might encounter.
    While, those as described here, who are not carrying a firearm for self defense, can lose it while driving, or anywhere else they choose to get out of control. We, as advocates of open carry and soon concealed carry, cannot afford to lose self control, if we do, then either an innocent citizen or ourselves could get seriously injured or killed if we are confronted with a assault, robbery, or a situation where we will have to defend ourselves while OCing
    We are not law enforcement officers, however, as a citizen; we take on the responsibility of defending ourselves and others against an attack or robbery.
    I commend Vandil on his calm evaluation of the situation. He has obviously, thought out this and many other scenarios in his mind that he may find himself in, and has determined how he would react when faced with a difficult situation such as this. We canít afford to overreact, or become emotional, and loose our cool.
    We donít need training; we are already responsible citizens, currently exercising our right to carry a firearm for self defense. We have proven this by being responsible and avoiding situations that might draw negative publicity to ourselves throughout Wisconsin. Iím not aware of any situations, where a member has exercised his or her right to open carry adversely, or has abused the right in any way; we have stayed within the boundaries of the laws of Wisconsin.
    With that, I commend all members of Wisconsincarry.org on being extremely and highly responsible in exercising their right to open carry. We are the ones who are setting the standards for generations to come, and we will be remembered throughout history, as the movers and shakers of this movement!!

    Carry On

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Huffman View Post
    Yep. she recognized the bumpersticker-politics.

    So, now she lies, calls the cops, and accuses you of waving a gun while suffering road rage, she rats your license plate. The cops now have a tip, not anonymous, that there is an armed road-rager on the highway. They pull you, a felony stop, at gun point and find the gun that she accused.

    What then?
    Then I tell the officer to have the woman describe my firearm. If I had it out by all means she saw it and can describe it.

    Can she tell the officer what color the NEON markings are on my slide ? She must be able to had I been waving it around because by now I have explained to the officer and offered to let him see that it would be impossible for her to not be able to.

    End of issue and she goes off in cuffs for providing false information to the police.
    - Knowledge is power and there IS strength in numbers -

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    - Thomas Jefferson

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    Riight. You need to join (and get) your 'insanity shield'. Like I said, "Oh, the poor lady was mistaken. You better watch your step kid 'cause we got your license number."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotty View Post
    Then I tell the officer to have the woman describe my firearm. If I had it out by all means she saw it and can describe it.

    Can she tell the officer what color the NEON markings are on my slide ? She must be able to had I been waving it around because by now I have explained to the officer and offered to let him see that it would be impossible for her to not be able to.

    End of issue and she goes off in cuffs for providing false information to the police.
    I have a few cheap Mak's I wouldn't mind trying one of Steve's coats on. The DuraBright coat he sells is neon green and glows in the dark.


    The pull over scenario had crossed my mind I took my other car back to work that day.

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    cheap alternative to that is colored gaffers tape. I use a neon color on the end of my slide that is hidden by my holster. Specifically for times as the one described by doug.
    - Knowledge is power and there IS strength in numbers -

    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
    - Thomas Jefferson

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    colored, or multi-colored guns?! they will never catch on. heh-heh.

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    Yep. They may be considered facsimile guns more restricted than UOCs and on the way to lardassification of AMERICA.

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    Doug, perhapse were being just too old school. maybe we should consider something in a zebra pattern? it would be unique, though probably not taken seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnhcomputing View Post
    For those that think Doug's post is ridiculous, I would tell you that his post is EXACTLY what the anti gun people are advocating!

    If somebody starts following my like that, go to the nearest busy store/gas station. Stay in your vehicle and call 911 immediately. Submit their "plate" for harassment, just my thoughts.
    Exactly, park under the pumps in plain view of security cameras.

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