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    OC in place serving/selling alcohol, permission needed

    Im thinking of organizing an 'OC Dinnner' at MY favorite rib joint in the Madison area...Since OC is ALLOWED if permission is granted, can that permission be granted in a 'blanket' way or does each individual need a 'signed note' from the proper person at that establishment?

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    The § 941.237 prohibition is against "who ever" so I would hope that "who ever" has his hall pass in his pocket.

    But I'm sure that some other non lawyer will be along to quibble, controvert and tell what sounds agreeable.
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    could it be as simple as say a guest list style sign in and your good

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    YES, we can carry in establishments that serve alcohol

    and I and many others have done it many times.

    Here is a link to a form that a WCI member made: http://www.wisconsincarry.org/pdf/ca...onsliprev5.pdf

    The form (if printed in duplex) has all the relevant statutes on the back.

    I (licensee/owner/manager) here by authorize "all attendees of the special open carry dinner"

    Have then specify the date, and a time (4:00PM to 9:00PM). Make sure no handguns in the place until after 4:00, and all handguns are out before 9:00. Could also be 4-10 if you wanted.

    If they sign it, have fun and enjoy!

    Carry On.

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    ..thats what im wondering...not sure if this has been actually defined as to what constitutes permission... a sign in sheet would be OK with me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlockRDH View Post
    ..thats what im wondering...not sure if this has been actually defined as to what constitutes permission... a sign in sheet would be OK with me...
    No need for "registration" or a sign in sheet. Just have the owner/manager sign the form and you should be good to go.

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    Mmmmmm ribs. Keep us updated on time/location.

    Madison, guns and ribs.... just think of the totality of the situation.

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    As usual amateurs get it wrong. The permission is for a "specific event" and "of limited duration" and by the particular "owner or manager who is issued" the license.
    (g) The possession or use of a handgun on the premises if authorized for a specific event of limited duration by the owner or manager of the premises who is issued the Class “B” or “Class B” license or permit under ch. 125 for the premises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in WI View Post
    Madison, guns and ribs... just think of the totality of the situation.
    As long as I'm not ending up with guns in my ribs.
    Either way, that could be messy.

    As for the original question, when we did the BBC lunch at Thunder Bay Grill we didn't have a sign-in sheet. IIRC, Nik got blanket permission from the manager for all of us to attend. PM him to see how he did it.

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    Thanks...ill give him a pm and see what he did...I still havent received an email back from the owner..i may just have to stop in next week and have dinner...

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    Well don't unholster while your ribs are in front of you, therefore eliminating the possibility of mixing sidearm and ribs. Then there is the possibility of a gun in your ribs from an over aggressive person dressed in black and wearing a shiny metal ID tag while making illegal demands. All this while he is considering the totality of the circumstances that can't be defined or articulated. That situation is well...impossible to avoid the possibility.
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    My concern is bbq sauce..IF id have to draw my weapon, its going to get messy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlockRDH View Post
    My concern is bbq sauce. IF id have to draw my weapon, its going to get messy!
    I understand. Good ribs require a bath afterwards (and this from someone who almost never eats pork).

    What would be even worse is having the BBQ-encrusted pistol confiscated by the men in black (who are considering the totality of the circumstances of you defending yourself), and it sitting in evidence that way for who knows how long. Glocks can take a lot of abuse, that's one reason they're a popular service weapon, but an extended period of BBQ immersion might take its toll.

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