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    Crappy Weather in Forcast

    According to all the weather experts this is a "La Nina" year. It is supposed to bring lower temperatures and higher than normal precipitation. For those not familiar with the Northwest, that usually means lots and lots of rain and even snow down to the level of I-5.

    Crappy weather like this brings the following question, "How do you carry when it is raining or snowing? Do you go ahead and Open Carry or do you merely Conceal while raining or snowing? If you continue to OC, what precautions do you take to protect your firearm? Extra Cleaning Sessions with more oil? How about choice of holster?

    I can remember when I first started carrying and my carry gun was a blued steel 1911 in a military flap style holster. The Leather turned slimy in the rain and I had to disassemble, clean, and oil regularly but still got some rust on internal springs. To keep the holster from suffering from the wet I used a boot sealer popular with mountain climbers but it attracted all kinds of dirt.

    Today I am lazy. I just conceal with a raincoat.

    What do the rest of you do today?
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    Throw a jacket over it while outdoors, remove the jacket when I get indoors. If I'm at the store I'll either hang the jacket over my arm or toss it in the cart. It's a matter of what's practical. If it's cold and rainy, I'm not gonna freeze and soak my ass for the sake of OC. But as soon as I get inside, it's at a comfortable temperature for just a t-shirt, so I remove my jacket.

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    I never worry about a little drizzle on my carry guns, but if it is truly raining I typically CC.

    I think another important question this time of year is what type of ammo people carry. Some people fear that hollow points will penetrate poorly through winter clothing so they switch to round nose or fmj rounds. Its something to discuss in another thread if it hasn't been done already.

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    That is actually one of the reasons that I added a Glock to my collection. It gets very wet when I'm OC'ing in the winter here in Seattle, but I rest easy knowing that it will come through it unscathed as even the internals are coated in Tenifer. Glocks may not be aesthetically pleasing to all, but I didn't buy it to look good! I even purchased an OC raincoat, so that I could stay dry while my gun got wet. It's VERY useful (and warm!). See this link for a list of them: http://www.lapolicegear.com/5taja.html.

    I've carried successfully this way for over 2 years now. I don't like carrying my carbon steel firearms in the snow/rain (i.e. 1911), and have never attempted to with my stainless steel firearms, so I can't comment on those.

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    Better be careful, the springs in the Glocks are not coated. Those can still rust up on you and possibly break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Better be careful, the springs in the Glocks are not coated. Those can still rust up on you and possibly break.
    Thanks for the tip! I break it down regularly, and have never noticed corrosion. I HATE rust, and open my safe just to look for it on my firearms sometimes (I haven't found any yet!). Perhaps my Glock has resisted corrosion because of my maintenance schedule, or because I don't sweat on the gun, and the rain/snow is low in acidity? I'll definitely keep on eye on the springs in the firearm/magazines based on your warning.

    For those who do have issues with rust I found the following two posts with products you can use (this post and the one below it):

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    Since I generally only get to do so on weekends, I'll go out of my way to OC at this point. But if the weather's going to be crappy I'll break down & wear an overshirt.

    Planning a little drive this weekend over the North Cascades before they close it for the winter, looks like it might be snowing the whole way there & back

    Is it mean to hope for another "snowpocalypse" for the helpless sheep down in Seattle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .45ACPaddy View Post
    Throw a jacket over it while outdoors, remove the jacket when I get indoors. If I'm at the store I'll either hang the jacket over my arm or toss it in the cart. It's a matter of what's practical. If it's cold and rainy, I'm not gonna freeze and soak my ass for the sake of OC. But as soon as I get inside, it's at a comfortable temperature for just a t-shirt, so I remove my jacket.
    Same here, when the weather is bad, a coat will probably be on until I get inside.
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    when I was towing on the beach, and it would be pouring and the winds would be a blowing, I just got used to going home after a tow, and firing up the air compressor, and stripping my Taurus down, blowing the sand out of it, then cleaning it. It was unavoidable. Even concealed sand would get packed in it. That and having to lay down and crawl under a car to hook it up. Thats why I bought a stainless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Since I generally only get to do so on weekends, I'll go out of my way to OC at this point. But if the weather's going to be crappy I'll break down & wear an overshirt.

    Planning a little drive this weekend over the North Cascades before they close it for the winter, looks like it might be snowing the whole way there & back

    Is it mean to hope for another "snowpocalypse" for the helpless sheep down in Seattle?
    Be careful what you wish for, we all have to deal with the weather, roads and traffic, sheep or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Since I generally only get to do so on weekends, I'll go out of my way to OC at this point. But if the weather's going to be crappy I'll break down & wear an overshirt.

    Planning a little drive this weekend over the North Cascades before they close it for the winter, looks like it might be snowing the whole way there & back

    Is it mean to hope for another "snowpocalypse" for the helpless sheep down in Seattle?
    Not mean at all! In fact, I am hoping for it. I love the snow. Had 18 inches on the ground two years ago at Christmas. Considerably fewer drivers out on the road to contend with. I don't have the luxury of not going to work so i'm out there no matter what the weather or conditions.

    In this weather, I tend to keep the 1911 covered up.
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    I'm not really a cost or jacket kind of guy so I OC 99% of the time that I am out. I hate having a jacket on while driving and if I run into a store I get too hot, so it's just easier to wear long sleeves. Usually you'll find me in long sleeves if it gets that cold or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderTattoo View Post
    Better be careful, the springs in the Glocks are not coated. Those can still rust up on you and possibly break.
    I just broke it down and inspected most of the springs. The 20SF looks like it is in great shape to me! If you see anything I missed please let me know.


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    ETA: In addition to OC'ing it in the winter, this has been my training gun when taking classes like Ayoob's LFI at the Firearms Academy of Seattle (they are anti OC btw, but have some great courses). It has easily had a few thousand rounds through it. I have extra parts in my bag ready to go, but it doesn't look like I will need them for quite awhile .
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    diesel556 said: SNIP "I just broke it down and inspected most of the springs. The 20SF looks like it is in great shape to me! If you see anything I missed please let me know."

    It does look recoverable. I think the magazine spring could be made to fit in a proper magazine, which would then of course be fitted into a 1911 frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim675 View Post
    diesel556 said: SNIP "I just broke it down and inspected most of the springs. The 20SF looks like it is in great shape to me! If you see anything I missed please let me know."

    It does look recoverable. I think the magazine spring could be made to fit in a proper magazine, which would then of course be fitted into a 1911 frame.
    Har har . I can't deny that the 1911 is a beautiful machine. In fact, I have a custom CCO in 10mm that I have been waiting on for close to a year now .

    ETA: I'm still chuckling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel556 View Post
    I just broke it down and inspected most of the springs. The 20SF looks like it is in great shape to me! If you see anything I missed please let me know.


    Click for a larger version

    ETA: In addition to OC'ing it in the winter, this has been my training gun when taking classes like Ayoob's LFI at the Firearms Academy of Seattle (they are anti OC btw, but have some great courses). It has easily had a few thousand rounds through it. I have extra parts in my bag ready to go, but it doesn't look like I will need them for quite awhile .
    ...what sort of bullets are those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    Be careful what you wish for, we all have to deal with the weather, roads and traffic, sheep or not!
    Well most of us don't completely flip out & blame the gov't when there's a little ice in the road. We just deal with it. If you live in Queen Anne and drive a Prius with summer tires, well that's the risk you take

    Quote Originally Posted by n15wb View Post
    Not mean at all! In fact, I am hoping for it. I love the snow. Had 18 inches on the ground two years ago at Christmas. Considerably fewer drivers out on the road to contend with. I don't have the luxury of not going to work so i'm out there no matter what the weather or conditions..
    I honestly don't really remember how much we had here at home. It's blocked by the memory of going up & down I-5 for two weeks with chains on . Made some nice overtime tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Well most of us don't completely flip out & blame the gov't when there's a little ice in the road. We just deal with it. If you live in Queen Anne and drive a Prius with summer tires, well that's the risk you take

    Kind of reminds me of a guy I saw during all that snow we had two years ago.
    I was in capital hill walking up hill and heard the sound of tires slipping on the road.
    I glanced to my right and saw a small sedan and noticed he had chains on the rear tires, the front tires were spinning as he was sliding backwards down the hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    I'm not really a cost or jacket kind of guy so I OC 99% of the time that I am out. I hate having a jacket on while driving and if I run into a store I get too hot, so it's just easier to wear long sleeves. Usually you'll find me in long sleeves if it gets that cold or bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead47 View Post
    Well most of us don't completely flip out & blame the gov't when there's a little ice in the road. We just deal with it. If you live in Queen Anne and drive a Prius with summer tires, well that's the risk you take



    I honestly don't really remember how much we had here at home. It's blocked by the memory of going up & down I-5 for two weeks with chains on . Made some nice overtime tho.

    I was trying to be funny, Metalhead. I don't flip out or blame anyone, I just deal with it. If the roads are truly bad, I stay home. Not worth wrecking the car or getting hurt, then not being able to work when the roads are good. I was born and raised in the Midwest so I know about winter weather. I worry about other people who don't know how to drive in it. It may be an interesting winter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    I was born and raised in the Midwest so I know about winter weather.
    So was my wife. Drove everywhere during the winter back home. Then she moved here and wondered why our snow was so wet and slimy. Also couldn't figure out why we had so many hills. After all, the snow back home was nice and dry, gave great traction, and the biggest hill in the entire county was about 200' high .

    Staying home is probably the best option but for some reason, at the first snowflake, everyone has to hit the road. Problem would be solved if our State would enact some "Emergency Snow Route" laws like on the East Coast. You get stuck on one of them and you get towed, period. Get stuck without the proper winter tires or chains and you get a major fine on top of the tow bill. Seems to make a few more people think before venturing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    I was trying to be funny, Metalhead. I don't flip out or blame anyone, I just deal with it. If the roads are truly bad, I stay home. Not worth wrecking the car or getting hurt, then not being able to work when the roads are good. I was born and raised in the Midwest so I know about winter weather. I worry about other people who don't know how to drive in it. It may be an interesting winter!
    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    So was my wife. Drove everywhere during the winter back home. Then she moved here and wondered why our snow was so wet and slimy. Also couldn't figure out why we had so many hills. After all, the snow back home was nice and dry, gave great traction, and the biggest hill in the entire county was about 200' high .

    Staying home is probably the best option but for some reason, at the first snowflake, everyone has to hit the road. Problem would be solved if our State would enact some "Emergency Snow Route" laws like on the East Coast. You get stuck on one of them and you get towed, period. Get stuck without the proper winter tires or chains and you get a major fine on top of the tow bill. Seems to make a few more people think before venturing out.
    We had a VP where I used to work who was from the midwest, and knew all about winter driving, and how we Washingtonians couldn't drive in the snow. We had a good laugh when we were all at work after a light snow, and he called in because he couldn't get out of his driveway.

    My approach is to take back roads home -the ones no one else would dare drive on in the snow. With nobody on them, the snow isn't packed down and will give you traction. Then wait a day until the idiots are all in the ditch or staying home in paranoia, then chain up and go wherever I need to without problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    I was trying to be funny, Metalhead. I don't flip out or blame anyone, I just deal with it. If the roads are truly bad, I stay home. Not worth wrecking the car or getting hurt, then not being able to work when the roads are good. I was born and raised in the Midwest so I know about winter weather. I worry about other people who don't know how to drive in it. It may be an interesting winter!
    Wasn't trying to direct that at you honestly.

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    Kind of reminds me of a guy I saw during all that snow we had two years ago.
    I was in capital hill walking up hill and heard the sound of tires slipping on the road.
    I glanced to my right and saw a small sedan and noticed he had chains on the rear tires, the front tires were spinning as he was sliding backwards down the hill.
    ROFLMAO did you stop and clue him in on the proper use of chains... or at least put the video on youtube for the entertainment of all?

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    ...what sort of bullets are those?
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