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    Backlash Over New Body Scanners. “One thing .. respect everyone’s right to bear arms"

    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...body-scanners/
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    “One thing we could do is respect everyone’s right to bear arms,” said Babbs.
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    next time i fly commercially i'm not going to wear anything but a speedo. man i need to get my license!
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    My car will be there on December 1st.

    We need to send two messages to the TSA:

    1. Stop punishing the public at large for what the terrorists did.

    2. You can't look at my junk, and you certainly cannot touch it.

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    I won't fly anymore until those pervert scanners go bye bye that's an invasion of our right to privacy.. Nor will I let them give me a full body pat down that's called unreasonable search. I am amazed yet not, at the sheeples that fly on a daily basis, they actually don't care that those back scatter devices operate on the same hertz level's as the human brain or that they are OK with subjecting their kids to it or a pedophile searching their little kids.

    The American people are so so lost. If enough people at these airports would revolt against the TSA and their big brother intrusive searches,it would stop. but the People still sleep.
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    Agreed 100%

    1. I wouldnt let some random person touch my child!!! If they said I couldnt fly I wouldnt.

    2. If everyone said NO the airlines would get TSA out of the airport

    3. If everyone stoped flying auto sales would rise and they could drop there prices so I could afford a new truck!!

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    Speedos, pffft. If I have to fly, I'm going to go out and purchase a kilt. Then I'll be more than happy to wear it 'correctly'.
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    I turned down a free-to-me ticket to visit someone in Dec. because of the TSA.
    I also wrote the airline most likely to have benefitted from that purchase, & explained why they lost the money.
    If I have to go somewhere, I'll drive.

    If it's an utter emergency, I'll fly but have my pen cam going as I'm processed through security, and if they decide I look like a good victim for their gropefest ('cause I ain't doin' no porn scanner, that's for darn sure!) I'll strip down to bra & undies & walk thorugh the metal detector. They can see I'm not carrying anything, but I wouldn't be naked like in the porn machine, and they won't touch me. (That's sexual assault.)

    I'll also have on hand the state statutes regarding sexual assault, so they can't claim they didn't know they were breaking the law. Considering the dozens of explanations I've read of what various travelers have been put through, I have no doubt that the TSA gropefest constitutes sexual assault. And their porn scan of children is certainly illegal under kiddie porn statutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Considering the dozens of explanations I've read of what various travelers have been put through, I have no doubt that the TSA gropefest constitutes sexual assault. And their porn scan of children is certainly illegal under kiddie porn statutes.
    Two very good points, MKEgal. Perhaps both should be the focus of efforts to reign in the TSA and Napoleanotino to standards more acceptable to US citizens.

    Along with minimizing unnecessary exposure to ionizing radiation.
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    One reason I haven't flown in 10 years is the "enhanced" security since 9/11/01. This last bit really is absurd.

    The only one going to handle my privates, other than myself, is not going to be male and had better be quite gentle.
    I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do those things to other people and I require the same of them.

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    For all the indignities we have had to endure as travelers, how many terrorists have the TSA's invasive measures stopped?

    Good intelligence and blind luck have served us better.

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    Check out these links:

    http://flywithdignity.org/

    http://www.optoutday.com/

    The second has video of what the scans actually see (more franks and beans than a bachelor camping trip) as well as info on H.R. 6416: The American Traveler Dignity Act in Congress introduced by Rep. Ron Paul.

    Keep in mind that the "enhanced patdowns" that "aggressively touch genitals" basically means their job is to feel your package and count to three to make sure that's all that's in there. Make sure it's not a cold day when one of your boys is hiding behind the other one, I guess. I am WAY not cool with the choice of having strangers either feel my kids up or take naked pictures of them as a price to go to Disneyland or visit grandma.

    I fully intend to wear my kilt every time I fly from now on. Gentlemen, don't have a kilt? No problem, get a headstart on that someday trip to Hawaii and don a $20 sarong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahkagari View Post
    I fully intend to wear my kilt every time I fly from now on. Gentlemen, don't have a kilt? No problem, get a headstart on that someday trip to Hawaii and don a $20 sarong.
    I lol'd hard. I was thinking it might be fun put a couple golf balls down there. If they said something, you could claim they're prostheses.

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    This type of indignity is why no longer fly airline nonsense= my being sick, I will go by Rail or drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahkagari View Post
    Check out these links:

    http://flywithdignity.org/

    http://www.optoutday.com/

    The second has video of what the scans actually see (more franks and beans than a bachelor camping trip) as well as info on H.R. 6416: The American Traveler Dignity Act in Congress introduced by Rep. Ron Paul.

    Keep in mind that the "enhanced patdowns" that "aggressively touch genitals" basically means their job is to feel your package and count to three to make sure that's all that's in there. Make sure it's not a cold day when one of your boys is hiding behind the other one, I guess. I am WAY not cool with the choice of having strangers either feel my kids up or take naked pictures of them as a price to go to Disneyland or visit grandma.

    I fully intend to wear my kilt every time I fly from now on. Gentlemen, don't have a kilt? No problem, get a headstart on that someday trip to Hawaii and don a $20 sarong.
    Good links. Sign the petition at the first link.

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    I was pleased to see that my local airport (MCI, Kansas City) has kicked the TSA out in favor of one of the third party firms. Of course, that doesn't help in getting back home, but I can at least leave the city without being molested.

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    I think this is total crap and harassment.

    That being said, I'm not above claiming I'm gay and getting a female TSA agent to do the "enhanced patdown". At least I'll get something out of the deal.

    That brings up an interesting point. If I were to do that, could the female TSA agent claim sexual harassment? If she could, that would be a double standard IMHO. In short, if I'm going to be harassed, I want to be harassed by the gender of my choice!

    Unfortunately, I will have to fly again soon for work. I don't have much choice in that matter. The above idea is just one interesting way with having to deal with it until we can get these tyrants to stop.
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    Yeah. Why do they assume that I'd prefer to be groped by a man???

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    Since they also scan kids, are they guilty of creating child porn? Should we report this to the crime hotlines?

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    When I have to get a physical every now and then and a doc has to fondle my junk or groin I make sure its a woman doctor. I'll certainly not let some male TSA looser grope me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    When I have to get a physical every now and then and a doc has to fondle my junk or groin I make sure its a woman doctor. I'll certainly not let some male TSA looser grope me.
    Seriously. When did they start saying during airport screenings, "Turn your head and cough."?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Seriously. When did they start saying during airport screenings, "Turn your head and cough."?
    the enhanced pat down sounds like a grope to me. The mention of a doc is to highlight that I don't let any dudes, even doctors, touch my junk; the idea that TSA is forcing such an intrusive search on people is to me that much more offensive and illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daylen View Post
    the enhanced pat down sounds like a grope to me. The mention of a doc is to highlight that I don't let any dudes, even doctors, touch my junk; the idea that TSA is forcing such an intrusive search on people is to me that much more offensive and illegal.
    Yes. I got that. I made the same point in the other thread.

    Just thought I'd try out that joke before Leno stumbled on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Seriously. When did they start saying during airport screenings, "Turn your head and cough."?
    Yep. Next up... short arm inspection.

    Yesterday I was watching an interview with a judge who said, in no uncertain terms, that what TSA is doing is illegal. He says that the feeling or groping of someone's body, and in particular, without their consent, or under duress or coercion (such as submitting to it in order to obtain something else), is sexual harassment. He added that the neither government nor any of its agencies are exempt from these laws.

    This could get interesting.
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