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lil_freak_66 followed by cops after getting kicked out of McDonalds
- Thread starter kwikrnu
- Start date
budlight
Regular Member
I don't know what happened in this incident so I'm not going to pass judgment.
But I know what you are talking about. There are some people out there that can't do anything without drawing attention to themselves. Whether the attention is good, bad or in between they don't care as long as they get attention.
Bailenforcer
Regular Member
Since I have never seen them I cant say. But attitude can attract much unneeded attention. And attitude also shows even when a person says nothing all too often.
I am only addressing the many threads that a tiny group has posted, started and complained in that they always get picked on shall I say. I have read nearly all of those posts and threads and I see a consistent pattern, demeanor and attitude which would cause even me to wonder what they might be up to, and I am as laid back as they get when it comes to Constitutional issues of personal rights.
When I see that most people here open carry or go about their daily lives with no problems, and a few cant seem to go to the mailbox without drama. Usually there is a reason and maybe they don't realize what they are doing to attract negative attention. I wish I knew them so I could help by giving some tips or advice. Granted we are all only human and I am not denigrating them, because I have no idea how they were raised. But when someone is an adult he/she must find out how to act like one and even seek out advice, as we do not know all. Sometimes we cant see what we are doing wrong and should ask another who we see has no problems in that area we struggle with. Sadly we no longer have a society where the younger people can seek out elders for wisdom.
I am only addressing the many threads that a tiny group has posted, started and complained in that they always get picked on shall I say. I have read nearly all of those posts and threads and I see a consistent pattern, demeanor and attitude which would cause even me to wonder what they might be up to, and I am as laid back as they get when it comes to Constitutional issues of personal rights.
When I see that most people here open carry or go about their daily lives with no problems, and a few cant seem to go to the mailbox without drama. Usually there is a reason and maybe they don't realize what they are doing to attract negative attention. I wish I knew them so I could help by giving some tips or advice. Granted we are all only human and I am not denigrating them, because I have no idea how they were raised. But when someone is an adult he/she must find out how to act like one and even seek out advice, as we do not know all. Sometimes we cant see what we are doing wrong and should ask another who we see has no problems in that area we struggle with. Sadly we no longer have a society where the younger people can seek out elders for wisdom.
Maybe they should dress better and get a haircut.
T Vance
Regular Member
Can this option be changed for the Michigan P411? I personally wouldn't want to use a system that publishes my personal phone number for all to see.
Until then, I will refrain from using this system.
ETA: "for the Michigan P411"
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kwikrnu
Banned
How would you eliminate abuse of the system if #'s were not published?
T Vance
Regular Member
I don't understand your question.
T Vance
Regular Member
If numbers are published, then ANYONE can see them which could lead to abuse of the system.
- So some teenager could start pranking the person.
- Someone on this site that may not like the person who's number is published could give their number a telemarketer.
- Could lead to harrassment/death threats from anti-gun group members (it's happened to others already).
- So some teenager could start pranking the person.
- Someone on this site that may not like the person who's number is published could give their number a telemarketer.
- Could lead to harrassment/death threats from anti-gun group members (it's happened to others already).
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scot623
Regular Member
I certainly wouldn't want my personal information released.
kwikrnu
Banned
If numbers are not released then anyone could call and report anything they wanted. It is a cheap service that can protect rights. Feel free not to use it. I thank the people that paid for it.
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T Vance
Regular Member
So??? I'd rather have that problem then have my phone number published for ALL to see.
BTW, I just remembered something. If you press *67 before you make the phone call to Porcupine 411, you should be able to block your number from being seen. Problem is, I doubt people would remember to do that if they were in a hectic situation requiring them to call Porcupine 411.
Bronson
Regular Member
Could the *67 prefix be added to the P411 number in the phone's speed dial or is the *67 something you have to dial and then wait for a confirmation before entering the # you want to call?
Bronson
T Vance
Regular Member
Good call! Can't believe I didn't think of that. You could always give it a try with another number to test it out (call a cell next to you and see if it works), or you could make a test call to Porcupine 411 that way.
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Then CAN run your plate to see who the registered driver is. A LIEN is run after a stop. Courts have ruled that running a plate is allowed as it's in plain site. They also say that RAS exists for a stop if for example the person driving is male and the plates show a female as the registered owner. In this case the LEO is allowed to make a stop to determine if the car is stolen, etc...
That is why some people register their cars to a corporation (It's Expensive) or into a trust.
As for a LEIN who do they run it on??? The person that is requested to the car (Plates) may be different than the person driving, so not sure what good that does.
Talked with my local Chief and he said some departments have programs that run a LIEN automatically with a plate run and some don't. He stated that as long as they have RAS they can run a LIEN. They can run a plate without RAS and as stated some departments have a LEIN on the registered owner automatically.
For instance I asked if a person's son was driving a car and the LEO ran his plate and it came back registered to the father and there was a Warrant on the father can the LEO stop the car. The Chief said yes, but as soon as the driver was found not to be the person with the warrant the stop has to end and they would not be allowed to run the drivers info, etc...
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Beerme
Banned
and a showerMaybe they should dress better and get a haircut.
wouldnt hurt
Just sayin
You know how i feel on that one buddy, I OC everywhere everyday, I have yet to be removed from anywhere and have yet to have the cops called on me
yes and a few are in charge or active here
Look at the people who are getting in trouble. they are for the most part adults but I honestly wouldn't trust with a potato gun
Bailenforcer
Regular Member
fozzy71
Regular Member
Wrap a socket in duct tape and fire it out of one and see what happens. :uhoh:
Bailenforcer
Regular Member
ElectricianLU58
Regular Member
i am in agreement with kwikrnu and bailenforcer on this. if you look squared away, you are probably a LOT less likely to be messed with while OCing.
i think getting a haircut, minding your manners, keeping your yard nice, keeping your car washed, making sure your kids are presentable and mannerly, just plain being a squared away guy... are part of being a man.
"you only have one chance to make a first impression" may be a trite cliche, but there is a lot of truth in it. right or wrong, people judge you by the way you look.
i think getting a haircut, minding your manners, keeping your yard nice, keeping your car washed, making sure your kids are presentable and mannerly, just plain being a squared away guy... are part of being a man.
"you only have one chance to make a first impression" may be a trite cliche, but there is a lot of truth in it. right or wrong, people judge you by the way you look.
fozzy71
Regular Member
LOL
Apparently you missed the sarcasm which was dripping off his comment.
I dont care what you are dressed like, how long your hair is, what color your skin is...... No one deserves to be unfairly profiled, persecuted, or prosecuted.
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Onnie
Regular Member
While you may be correct, i would like to point out one fine example of someone getting pulled over by the cops on at least a weekly basis........my son.
6-2, short hair, but and I say but, when he drive he drives as if he is laying down, his shirts are 2 sizes too big and his pants are 5 sizes too big and his croch hang down past his knees
I can almost guarantee you if he and I were OCing and we walked past a cop, and that cop had the mindset to stop one of us, the boy would get picked a heck of a lot more than me, a 56 year old fat old man!
I used to drive truck, 18 wheeler, during my 22 years of driving i bet I racked up 30 speeding tickets. never did i ever get stopped and NOT get a ticket. Since 1995 since I quit driving I have hand 1 ticket. BTW I put on 30,000 to 40,000 on my vehicle a year now, about half of what I did when i was driving truck
you will never get away from profiling...we all do it every day in our lives, cops are no different, reguardless of what they say, they pick on a certain class, or a way a person looks. It may not be fair, but its life, and we all know the saying, life just aint fair!