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    You have no right to police protection

    I have seen and read many posts that talk about the courts ruling that LEOs are not required to protect an individual or even respond to a call for help.

    Here is a very well written article that includes synopsis of several major court rulings and the stories behind them.

    Warning, you may need to take your blood pressure pills before reading:

    http://randysright.wordpress.com/201...ce-protection/

    These kind of rulings combined with city/state resources limiting or lowering the numbers of police officers hired (per population) are a major reason I now open carry everywhere possible, including having it on me in my own home.

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    a nice collection of stories to help further the cause of self defense. thanks for the link(as sad as the stories are).
    If guns cause crime.....mine must be defective.

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    Why would anyone rely on the police for protection in the first place?

    Anyway, the part in bold in the following clipped portion is the exact quote I use for the argument against being forced against my will to pay taxes which go toward public "services"...

    Warren v. District of Columbia - 1981 – Two women were upstairs in a townhouse when they heard their roommate, a third woman, being attacked downstairs by intruders. They phoned the police several times and were assured that officers were on the way. After about 30 minutes, when their roommate’s screams had stopped, they assumed the police had finally arrived.

    When the two women went downstairs they saw that in fact the police never came, but the intruders were still there. As the Warren court graphically states in the opinion: “For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands of their attackers.” The three women sued the District of Columbia for failing to protect them, but D.C.’s highest court exonerated the District and its police, saying that it is a “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.” Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981).
    It's an obvious fact that policing, whether it be on the state, county, federal, or any other level, is set up to protect the sanctioning body's interests, not the individual citizen. It's the reason you see "US vs Mr Blah Blah" or "The State of Blah Blah vs Mr Blah Blah" in court records and trial papers. The government is always the Plaintiff and the victim of the crime is nothing but a witness in the case.

    The "police" (no matter the level) are not there for your protection, but for the protection of the government's (whichever level sanctions the enforcement agency) interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorhead View Post
    Why would anyone rely on the police for protection in the first place?

    Anyway, the part in bold in the following clipped portion is the exact quote I use for the argument against being forced against my will to pay taxes which go toward public "services"...



    It's an obvious fact that policing, whether it be on the state, county, federal, or any other level, is set up to protect the sanctioning body's interests, not the individual citizen. It's the reason you see "US vs Mr Blah Blah" or "The State of Blah Blah vs Mr Blah Blah" in court records and trial papers. The government is always the Plaintiff and the victim of the crime is nothing but a witness in the case.

    The "police" (no matter the level) are not there for your protection, but for the protection of the government's (whichever level sanctions the enforcement agency) interests.
    Those poor saps that have no idea of how much falsehood the police really are. Don't get me wrong, some want to do the right thing, but the rest are just a waste of space.

    I used to live in the Sherwood apartments in Downey CA. a few years ago. I returned home to find 1 of my roommates outside with his girlfriend wearing blankets to stay warm. I had approached the front gate only to be told to stay out it was a crime scene. I approached my roommate and his girlfriend to be informed that my other roommate was shot at point blank in the face with a .38, and his girlfriends throat was slit from ear to ear. The suspects were 3 black males who came into our apartment with the intent to murder all inhabitants. Little did they know the guy they shot in the face was an ex marine, he chased them out of the house after they saw him get up after being shot. Cops, useless as usual, never caught anyone. Case is still a "Cold Case".

    I had always felt that law enforcement really wasn't around to be there "In Time" to stop the bad things from happening, rather just show up after and pretend to put the puzzle pieces together. I know now more so then ever we are in a serious point of turmoil. The calm before the storm if you will. So to all of you out there who are armed, I thank you for whatever reason you have for being armed and a good citizen, by "my standards". ~end rant~

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    As outrageous as the Warren v. D.C. ruling is, DeShaney v Winnebago County Department of Social Services actually bodes well for our cause.

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