Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
knowingly disguising a gun case within reach is a crime
rule 15 violation
wheres the mod mod
Really? Would you care to elaborate?
knowingly disguising a gun case within reach is a crime
rule 15 violation
wheres the mod mod
knowingly disguising a gun case within reach is a crime
rule 15 violation
wheres the mod mod
Can someone please explain why it is necessary to disguise a gun case as a CD case? I mean why go through all of the hassle of making a gun case out of a CD Case?
IMHO, if you use a CD case you are disguising the gun and therefore concealing its identity. That opens you up for a concealment charge all of its own. Now that is just my opinion and I am not giving any legal advice, just making a point here.
It is legal to have a cased firearm in your vehicle so why not just use a firearms case?
I firmly believe and it is MHO that if for some reason the police search your vehicle and find a fiream hidden inside a CD case you will be charged with CCW. I MHO I believe they will say you were trying to hide the firearm in the CD case rather than just encase it.
By placing the firearm in a CD case you are attempting to disguise the firearm and therefore making it indiscernible from anyone other than yourself that the case in fact holds a firearm instead of CD's. Of course that is just my thought on the matter and you can take it or leave it.
Here is the way "I" understand the laws, once the gun is in a case that is specifically made to house a firearm, and it is unloaded, it does not matter what else you may put it in.
So If I am riding my bicycle, and I have my XDm in it's factory hard case, I can put that properly encased firearm into my backpack for transport, I believe it to be the same for a motor vehicle.
I believe the intent of the law was to try and keep a readily accessible, but disguised firearm out of a vehicle, you got to remember that most of the transportation laws in WI come from the DNR to make poaching charges stick easier.
Yes I know the law may not mean to someone what I believe it means, but I would still fight my point in court.
They just simply cannot deny any and all transportation of firearms, but the way the law is worded, that is what they have effectively done. Can anyone cite to a case where a legal hunter was found guilty for transporting his unloaded firearm in a a proper case?
I didn't think so!
So using my logic, if a pistol is in a gun-sock, before being placed into a CD case, you should fare well, but if it is just in a CD case, there may be some issues in court because a CD case does not meet "Specifically made to house a firearm"
Here is the way "I" understand the laws, once the gun is in a case that is specifically made to house a firearm, and it is unloaded, it does not matter what else you may put it in.
So If I am riding my bicycle, and I have my XDm in it's factory hard case, I can put that properly encased firearm into my backpack for transport, I believe it to be the same for a motor vehicle.
I believe the intent of the law was to try and keep a readily accessible, but disguised firearm out of a vehicle, you got to remember that most of the transportation laws in WI come from the DNR to make poaching charges stick easier.
Yes I know the law may not mean to someone what I believe it means, but I would still fight my point in court.
They just simply cannot deny any and all transportation of firearms, but the way the law is worded, that is what they have effectively done. Can anyone cite to a case where a legal hunter was found guilty for transporting his unloaded firearm in a a proper case?
I didn't think so!
So using my logic, if a pistol is in a gun-sock, before being placed into a CD case, you should fare well, but if it is just in a CD case, there may be some issues in court because a CD case does not meet "Specifically made to house a firearm"
"Specifically made to house a firearm"
as determined by WHO?? The DNR? The manufacturer of the 'enclosure'....just because you bought the box at Walmart, in the hunting dept, and it has a the pic of a hand gun on it...does that MEAN it was "Specifically made to house a firearm" ...or was it meant for something else and remarketed as such? How about tupperware? That wasnt made specifically for that purpose..but it works just fine! What if Plano (plastic manufacturer) remarketed the same tupperware container with pic of a hand gun on it? How would that figure into this? See where im going with this? Its an arguably very vague area.
Enclosed within a carrying case for firearms means that a firearm must be completely
contained in a case expressly made for that purpose. The case must fully enclose the
firearm by being zipped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, with no portion of the
firearm exposed. Homemade cases are legal if they conform to this definition.
If it has a picture of a firearm on it then you are covered. If you modify a tupperware container to house a firearm you are covered. This is in accordance with the DNRs Administrative enforcement policy. "Home made" cases are legal.