Still think the police have a duty to protect you?

bigdaddy1 · Nov 26, 2010

I always used to carry my guns when on the boat, you never know when a rouge fish may attack. If only I was a better boatist. Now I have none. So sad.

smithman · Nov 26, 2010

If somebody comes in my house to torture and kill my family, they will be sh!tting their pants soon enough when staring down the barrel of one of my home defense guns.

Krusty · Nov 26, 2010

smithman said:
If somebody comes in my house to torture and kill my family, they will be sh!tting their pants soon enough when staring down the barrel of one of my home defense guns.

Don't forget to do the warning shot just (before) you open up on them.

protias · Nov 26, 2010

Krusty said:
Don't forget to do the warning shot just (before) you open up on them.

Warning shot? They should know their "job" is dangerous enough. They should be willing to accept the consequences.

oldschool · Nov 26, 2010

protias said:
Seems to be a reoccurring event among firearm owners. Even after they purchased a new firearm, it gets lost in a boating accident. Strange events. Strange events.

Not unlike all those dash cams in the the LEO,s cars.

They some how always seem to malfunction when there is a dispute as to the truth.

kwikrnu · Nov 26, 2010

You guys talk tough, but when the cops come to claim your weapons, like they did in NO, you'll hand them over.

protias · Nov 26, 2010

Not sure where that was said anywhere in this thread kwikrnu.

kwikrnu · Nov 26, 2010

J.Gleason said:
It is only a matter of time before our government starts removing those rebel rousers from the general population and the funny thing is everyone will sit back and let that happen as well. Why? Because they don't want to make a scene or draw attention to themselves. They don't want to join the ones who will be rounded up and that means in the end they will give in and hand over their firearms like good sheeple would.
When do you say enough is enough?
What will you do if/when they come for your guns?
Just curious.

Krusty said:
I was always told "don't keep all of your eggs in one basket". Same goes for guns and ammo.

BAMF said:
They better come with more than I have!!:lol:

J.Gleason said:
I like your Answer!

protias said:
Every one has more guns than me. I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident.

J.Gleason said:
Mind if I use that story?

protias said:
Seems to be a reoccurring event among firearm owners. Even after they purchased a new firearm, it gets lost in a boating accident. Strange events. Strange events.

Sonora Rebel said:
It's never ceased to befuddle me how states and municipalities will still deny citizens the right to bear arms in their own defense when it's clear that police have no duty to protect. Such renders citizens defensless against the very predators that the police have no duty to protect them from. Moreover... those who would dare defend themselves are prosecuted for doing so. They have more to fear from their government than criminals. The rest... are just spineless bleating sheep.

bigdaddy1 said:
I always used to carry my guns when on the boat, you never know when a rouge fish may attack. If only I was a better boatist. Now I have none. So sad.

None of the quoted comments have anything to do with government agents seizing firearms like they did in NO?

protias · Nov 26, 2010

kwikrnu said:
None of the quoted comments have anything to do with government agents seizing firearms like they did in NO?

Well, there was "some" OT posting.

J.Gleason · Nov 27, 2010

kwikrnu said:
None of the quoted comments have anything to do with government agents seizing firearms like they did in NO?

Who cares?

LR Yote 312 · Nov 27, 2010

Krusty said:
Don't forget to do the warning shot just (before) you open up on them.

They'll get a warning shot to the head.

LR Yote

kwikrnu · Nov 27, 2010

J.Gleason said:
Who cares?

protias

J.Gleason · Nov 27, 2010

Some how I doubt that

protias · Nov 27, 2010

I was just confused as to why you posted that kwikrnu since it confiscation was never mentioned, just some off topic posting.

J.Gleason · Nov 27, 2010

kwikrnu said:
You guys talk tough, but when the cops come to claim your weapons, like they did in NO, you'll hand them over.

You are obviously talking about yourself here. I will never hand over my firearms to the tyrannical government. I am a veteran of the United States of America. I have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and I will not follow any unlawful orders, be it from the Police or the Government. I will not surrender my firearms.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8&feature=player_embedded

You on the other hand have made it more than clear that you would hand them over by your post here.

So who is the sheep?

BROKENSPROKET · Nov 27, 2010

J.Gleason said:
I have taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and I will not follow any unlawful orders, be it from the Police or the Government. I will not surrender my firearms.
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zztaj2AFiy8&feature=player_embedded

Can I get a AMEN!!!!!!

I urge everyone to check out OathKeepers.

I will only add that I will not follow and unconstitutional orders, cuz a corrupt government can pass a law I won't obey.

McX · Nov 28, 2010

the only given, absolute i know of is my right to protect me. the rest is open to interpretation, and question, probably for all time.

J.Gleason · Nov 28, 2010

HandyHamlet said:
****ing A right I'll give you an AMEN.

Just when I was really giving up hope... friends and family completely giving up their inalienable rights. And calling me the crazy one 'cause I refuse to.

Last time I checked the Constitution didn't start with "Just pick a few that might come in handy. You're not going to need ALL these Amendments".

And in keeping with the OP:
Neighbors called 911 after hearing the mother's screams and were outraged cops didn't go in for nearly an hour. By then, she was dead.

The NYPD said police who responded to the scene acted appropriately and were waiting for the Emergency Service Unit to arrive.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...#ixzz16Z3CJifY

That is exactly the same thing that happened during the Columbine shooting. The cops all stayed outside until the shooting stopped. Now that is protection. Protecting themselves. I wonder how much money the parents of all of the dead children gave to the policeman's benevolent society since that incident. They would have been better off handing their guns over to the parents and letting them handle the situation.

oak1971 · Nov 28, 2010

kwikrnu said:
You guys talk tough, but when the cops come to claim your weapons, like they did in NO, you'll hand them over.

Speak for yourself.

paul@paul-fisher.com · Nov 28, 2010

oak1971 said:
Speak for yourself.

Having these arguments is silly.

No one knows the real answer. If, for example, 10 cops come to my house kick the door down and put me on the ground, they will take my weapons, no question about it. Will I shoot a cop coming in? My initial answer is no. Document the encounter and go to court. If the apocalypse happens? Who knows? To quote my favorite police chief, it depends on the totality of the circumstance.

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